mcseminole, sorry to hear you haven't had many replies to your query. A lot of times people are busy with their tractors, etc and don't spend much time surfing or telling people how great their 6284, or XXXX is etc. I agree with making the dealer an offer. If you are serious on the 6284, then come up with a fair price, discounted for use, etc. The tractor lists for $12,999 on the CC site, the loader is probably around $3K new, but I'm not sure what the MMM might be, maybe $12-1500? I'd probably start in the $14 to 15,000 range, better yet find another dealer, either on the internet or in your area and price a new one, out the door, no trade. That would also give you some reference. I've read things on the past on the 6284/Caterpillar engine version but as I remember they were all positive other than I believe the Cat engine brought a higher price. I have a 7234 8-9 years old that I have had excellent luck with and would buy a CC again. Tough, dependable tractor. I'm not sure how big your dealer is but I've seen other dealers that 'graduated' to the compact line of tractors and didn't last long selling them as compared to smaller lawn tractors, etc. He is probably trying to squeeze every dollar he can out of a new/used product. Let us know what you decide...............