Certain fittings...Why so expensive??

[LD1]

Close. That's JIC/pipe. I needed SAE/pipe
This was what I was looking for: 6401-08-04 | #8 SAE/ORB Male x 1/4" NPTF Male

When they told me $67, I said the same thing, decimal must be in the wrong spot, and asked them to double check. I should also clarify, that $67 is list price. I setup a business account with them that I get a pretty decent discount even not being a huge volume buyer. If I was just a regular Joe buying a few pieces now and then it would have been pretty close to list.

Hydraulics are one of the many things that are ridiculously and unexplainably more expensive this side of the border.

Yea, its odd that ORB x NPT male fitting is $12 and female threaded one is under $2. No swivel or anything to make it complicated?

When you just said SAE I assumed you were talking about JIC. They both have the same SAE thread dimensions. Never see anyone talk about an ORB fitting without actually saying ORB. But have seen people use SAE then the - number to reference a JIC fitting. I believe they are both "technically" SAE

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

Yea, its odd that ORB x NPT male fitting is $12 and female threaded one is under $2. No swivel or anything to make it complicated?

Yup, makes no sense. 1 part to machine vs 2 and no assembly. And the pricing further reinforces which one to buy, which then compounds the volume thing. Who wouldn't save 75% when they have a choice?

When you just said SAE I assumed you were talking about JIC. They both have the same SAE thread dimensions. Never see anyone talk about an ORB fitting without actually saying ORB. But have seen people use SAE then the - number to reference a JIC fitting. I believe they are both "technically" SAE

I didn't know that about the threads actually being the same. Must be a regional thing. In my experience, the term ORB is very rarely used and called SAE #x giving us the choice of SAE or JIC but I can see how ORB or JIC would be more clear, especially when you know that about the threads.

 

[LD1]

Yep, threads are the same for dash sizes. Most of our ORB fittings at work have no markings. Most if the JIC fittings do. So if I don't know what a port size is, I grab a JIC fitting and see what threads in. That will tell me the size ORB I need since the threads are the same.

And both technically correct to be called SAE.

IE: SAE -08 ORB, or SAE -08 37* Flare (JIC)

 

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...This was what I was looking for: 6401-08-04 | #8 SAE/ORB Male x 1/4" NPTF Male...

IIRC you said previously you needed the parts in a rush so did not have to wait for processing/shipping...but...an option might have been (without going overboard on connectors) using these:

6401-08-06 | #8 SAE/ORB Male x 3/8" NPTF Male ($1.25) and:

Male Pipe (NPTF) x Female Pipe Swivel (NPSM) ($1.34) plus shipping etc...

 

[LD1]

IIRC you said previously you needed the parts in a rush so did not have to wait for processing/shipping...but...an option might have been (without going overboard on connectors) using these:

6401-08-06 | #8 SAE/ORB Male x 3/8" NPTF Male ($1.25) and:

Male Pipe (NPTF) x Female Pipe Swivel (NPSM) ($1.34) plus shipping etc...

I didnt catch that. Odd that a #8 ORB x 1/4 NPT is over $12, but the same thing in 3/8 or 1/2" pipe is under $2. That proves its simply a volume thing and NOT that its expensive to make.

When it comes to hydraulics, there are MANY different ways to make something work with the many different styles of fittings and adapters. Just have to see what prices are like.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

IIRC you said previously you needed the parts in a rush so did not have to wait for processing/shipping...but...an option might have been (without going overboard on connectors) using these:

6401-08-06 | #8 SAE/ORB Male x 3/8" NPTF Male ($1.25) and:

Male Pipe (NPTF) x Female Pipe Swivel (NPSM) ($1.34) plus shipping etc...

Yup, that would have done the job also.

This would have worked also rather than the swivel but oddly it's $1.76 rather than the $1.34 with the swivel.5405-04-06 | 1/4" NPTF Male x 3/8" NPTF Female

I didn't root too far in the bins once I got past the WTF of the $67 part. I wasn't in that much of a rush (not like something important was broken down) about ordering online, just the combination of a few days, plus $30 gas, plus %35 exchange on the dollar, plus 3 hrs to go get them only to save $20 on the parts themselves didn't make any sense.

This whole discussion certainly points out that what seems obvious to those of us in the real world isn't reality and it's certainly worth looking at a couple different options, not just buying the first option.

 

[LD1]

This whole discussion certainly points out that what seems obvious to those of us in the real world isn't reality and it's certainly worth looking at a couple different options, not just buying the first option.

Bingo

 

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Bingo

No doubt about it...there's always more than one way to skin a cat (but that's for a different thread )
It's not always easy to keep things simple and at a reasonable cost...
I like to keep things as uniform and utilitarian as possible as well as neat and compact as I can...
There is no doubt about it...if I had a crimping press and a variety of dies...I would be using a lot more JIC hose ends and application fittings, they can really make an installation clean and professional looking but since I don't have a press etc....and I like mechanical connections and think they rule over anything that requires a sealant etc...along with being frugal...straight end hoses and swivel fittings work for me...