Chains Chains on front tires only VS. rear only

[RickB]

I think I missed something somewhere in translation, and I'm to tied to figure things out tonight, (I do not recommend front chains on CUT's.) what does CUT mean, and are you saying that you sell parts for my L3400 like oil filters, bearings, and gears......

CUT is shorthand for Compact Utility Tractor.

I'm a parts manger at a New Holland and Kioti dealership, so I sell original equipment parts for those brands and aftermarket parts for many brands.

 

[Oldpath05]

(CUT) Compact Utility Tractor. Well, that was easier then me searching all night on the web. So the next question would have to be, is my L3400 a CUT? and what hp. does it start and stop at, or do we go by what the dealer calls it?

 

[Oldpath05]

(CUT) Compact Utility Tractor.

My New JD 5085M, If I run chains on front it will Void the Warranty. Not what I thought when I bought it.

David

Maybe that's how it is with all tractors when someone puts tire chains on the front end, it voids warrantee, which is probably only 3 years, I think that was what mine had in 07, but I'm long gone on the warrantee now. Then again like someone said here, the dealer has the power of the pen.

 

[RickB]

(CUT) Compact Utility Tractor. Well, that was easier then me searching all night on the web. So the next question would have to be, is my L3400 a CUT? and what hp. does it start and stop at, or do we go by what the dealer calls it?

More a matter of chassis size than HP. Most brands make their own distinctions. I would call an L series Kubota a CUT and an M series Utility tractor. New Holland Boomers and Workmasters would be CUT's and the T4.75 a Utility. Deere 4xxx CUT and 5xxx Utility.

 

[jix]

My tractor mechanic advised against front chains with rear chains too, very likely to break a driveshaft.( He said) FWIW

 

[Agvg]

If a tractor can't have chains on all four it's defect by design. And how on earth can the front hold up even on summer use?
But then not all mechanics are worth listening too, had my woow moments with people that claims to know a product and its crystal clear that they a no deep knowledge of what the talk about.

 

[jix]

Yabut.. Anyone knows more about tractors than I do!... I only know about checkbooks:duh:

 

[Oldpath05]

If a tractor can't have chains on all four it's defect by design. And how on earth can the front hold up even on summer use?
But then not all mechanics are worth listening too, had my woow moments with people that claims to know a product and its crystal clear that they a no deep knowledge of what the talk about.

That's what I'm thinking and wondering, poor design and what about summer use, seems to me that the front tires get a lot more traction on bare dirt with a bucket full of dirt then on snow and ice with chains on front.

Here's a pic of a poor design, a DT L3400 with no chains on front because I don't have enough $$ to fix it, I don't enough $$ now to fix the (gets stuck in gear) problem.

 

[kco]

Perhaps the risk to having front chains is due more to operating error than poor design. The momentum of slipping and sudden stopping can result in shock loads beyond those encountered through normal use. Slipping can be minimized by smooth operation and selecting suitable chains. For example, 4-link ladders will be more susceptible to slipping than 2-link ladders. Also, longer than necessary cross sections will have shorter side chains(since they will be closer to the centre of the wheel) and have fewer cross sections.

A better choice for front chains is likely a design like Oldpath05's rear chains(Aquilines??) with a continuous chain around the tread surface. Trygg and Tellesfdal offer a variety of similar designs and also smaller diameter components (5 to 8mm as opposed to 10mm) that also may be better for smaller front wheels.

With DUO's on the rears and smaller 2-link ladders on the front of my DK35 R4's, and regulating speed so there is no noticeable shock, I am confident the front and rear chains do not create undue stress to any driveline components. The most important factor is to be aware of what your machine is doing, and to ease up if you are producing stress. Spinning on ice and snow is totally unproductive.

 

[Agvg]

It has been a lot of terrible front axle designs, when 4WD came in the late seventies many used weak designs.
On smaller tractors they thought there was no need for reduction gears in the hubs, putting way to much stress on the axle.