Change Filter?

[ch1ch2]

Was the first 50hr service performed? If not you may still have breakin oil in it. Also the suction screens may have leftover debris from manufacturing clogging it up.

Yes all the maintenance has been done over the years (sort of). All are older tractors. 8 to 45 years old. I write the date and the hours on the filters when they get changed so I do not have to remember. I thought it was 2 years since I change the oils on this tractor and was surprised to see it had been 4 years.

 

[fishheadbob]

Time to change stuff. If I have a tractor that gets little use I let the intervals go by, but still change filters and oil every few years. Tractors are expensive compared to filters . I let hyd oil go forever as long as it looks OK, but I probably lose enough through leaks and breaks that overall the stuff isn't all that old. NAPA and similar places sell replacement filters for a lot less than OEM stuff.
Having said that I have to tell you about my uncle Jim. He never changed oil or filters on his car and would get amazing amounts of miles out of them back when anything over 70,000 miles was a relic; like 150,000. He knew oil better than most of us, he was a refinery manager for Mobil, then Aramco. ?

 

[kevin37b]

Change engine O/F AND HYD FILTER . HYD is a closed system but there are possibilities of machining contaniments . If you can afford those machines you can afford the filters ?

 

[ch1ch2]

Changed it all!
Fluids and filters.
Cranked it up and it ran about 15 seconds. Then it died. I changed the fuel filter, so I guess there is air in the line. The last time I changed the fuel filter it started to die and I went full throttle, it sputtered a bit but made it through and kept running.
I am older and slower now. I did not think about it until it died. I have not been able to restart.

 

[Texasmark]

Was the first 50hr service performed? If not you may still have breakin oil in it. Also the suction screens may have leftover debris from manufacturing clogging it up.

On the engine, if it did have BI oil it got changed out. On the hyd oil, Kukje specifies the oil to use (Premium with the orange dye due to the hydro shuttle and wet brakes) and never heard of break in oil in hydraulics/tranny/wet brake/hydrostat functions. Hear you on the particles but having run the test over the years, never found anything to amount to a hill of beans. Course a lot of engine and tranny drain plugs have magnets to catch those little critters and the more they catch the larger they are and the more surface area they have to catch more.

I think the real meat of the issue is as Ch1 said: "If I do not change the filters I will worry about it. If I do change them I can forget about it for at least a year." There is a lot of substance in that pair of sentences and years ago I used to be among the worst worriers. But having never had anything break to my knowledge due to lack of fluid changes, over the past 50+ years, I don't worry about it like I used to.

Same goes for going nuts with the grease gun. I still grease and use premium hi temp grease, but I am now tending to conform to the manual suggestions at a couple of pumps every 50 hours. I just got tired of having that nasty stuff all over me and my clothes every time I touch the gun or a piece of equipment that has been greased......course being nasty and staying put and goey and all is how it does it's job........but it doesn't take all that much. Besides that means I don't have to refill those nasty cartridge grease guns as often. I'll buy that.

 

[GManBart]

Changed it all!
Fluids and filters.
Cranked it up and it ran about 15 seconds. Then it died. I changed the fuel filter, so I guess there is air in the line. The last time I changed the fuel filter it started to die and I went full throttle, it sputtered a bit but made it through and kept running.
I am older and slower now. I did not think about it until it died. I have not been able to restart.

Which tractor was it? Does it have a manual priming system on the fuel lift pump?

 

[ch1ch2]

It is the TC33D. No it does not have anything from the filter to the pump except the metal fuel line about 8 inches in length.

I have never done it, but I understand I can crack open the injector lines at the injector, turn it over a few times to get the air out, then tighten them up and it should start. I will try that when the sun comes up.

 

[ch1ch2]

It is the TC33D. No it does not have anything from the filter to the pump except the metal fuel line about 8 inches in length.

I have never done it, but I understand I can crack open the injector lines at the injector, turn it over a few times to get the air out, then tighten them up and it should start. I will try that when the sun comes up.

 

[ch1ch2]

Crack open the injector lines and the engine would not turn over.
Corrosion on the + terminal. Cleaned up and cranked over the engine.
Got one line to bubble. Cranked and cranked and cranked and got the middle line to bubble.
Cranked and cranked and cranked. Nothing on the last line.
Engine sounds like it might want to try to start but it is not trying very hard.
Got to let the battery recharge for now.