Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles?

   / Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles? #31  
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My Toyota has a service required light that is mileage based. But it's not just for oil changes. Things like tire rotation and other checks are due when the light comes on. I think it's on a 5000 mile cycle. When it comes on you are suppose to refer to the owners manual and determine what needs servicing/ checking. It's not the same as an oil life monitoring system.
 
   / Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles? #32  
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I change my motorhome once a year in the fall, but rarely use it in the summer. I would suggest once a year regardless of mileage.
 
   / Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles? #33  
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My ears are open. Please tell how it monitors Low TBN, coolant in oil, silica levels, etc,etc

It monitors the amount of fuel processed by the engine which is most relevant. Also, engine load, RPM's, starting and ending engine temperatures, crank revolutions, calculated fuel octane, etc.....
Coolant in oil? I don't know about you, but I try to buy and maintain engines that I don't have to worry about that with. If I owned some engines with coolant leaks I still wouldn't wait for a paid lab result to tell me.
 
   / Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles? #34  
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Labs find traces of coolant in the oil. Something the average joe wouldn't notice,(only fill the radiator when it gets low). Do as you please, but I would never rely on engine oil life monitor for my oil changes. You didn't happen to mention how OLM's monitor silica,TBN levels, wear metals, etc ,etc,. The amount of fuel the engine processes isn't relevant at all to me. What's relevant to me, is how well the oil is holding up, wear metals, etc. If OLM's were that great Caterpillar would use them on their high dollar machines instead of oil analysis
 
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   / Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles? #35  
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Here's a good article on oil monitors.

Oil Life Monitoring Systems - Edmunds.com

It sounds like what they are saying is that all oils are the same, dino or syn. That don't make any sense to me. For them to validate their tests they have to fill in the blanks.... oil brand, grade and dino or syn. Too many loose ends here.
 
   / Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles? #36  
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It sounds like what they are saying is that all oils are the same, dino or syn. That don't make any sense to me. For them to validate their tests they have to fill in the blanks.... oil brand, grade and dino or syn. Too many loose ends here.

I assume the monitor is based on the recommended oil. I have been driving a Chevrolet Cobalt almost entirely highway miles. It has been 5000 miles since I changed oil and the monitor says 70% oil life remaining. That must assume the recommended full synthetic. I will go ahead and change at 10,000 like I always do (or 1 year).
 
   / Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles? #37  
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I don't think you can change most people's mind about when to change oil. Older generations are probably going to continue to change it every 3k miles. They're wasting oil. Oil consumption in the U.S is high enough already. I'm not some tree hugger, but I don't believe in being wasteful either. But, if you want to waste oil and change it every 3k miles it's your vehicle and you can do that if it gives you peace of mind. If you want to nit pick every little thing that is stated, it's a free country and you can do that too. Some people will argue with a brick wall no matter what. Just like my two kids :laughing:. So far though, I have yet to hear anyone say they have had engine trouble from not changing their oil every 3k miles.
 
   / Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles? #38  
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for those of you who can't quite realize it: this is just about as useful of a discussion topic as brand comparisons. it's pretty much all opinion because everyone has different variables. sure, there's a reasonable range, but if you change at 10k there will be people who tell you you are being wasteful because you could go 15k, and there will also be those that tell you that you need to do it at 5k. as long as you are lucid enough to realize that it needs to be changed somewhere around 2k and 20k, then you're likely to be ok. if you can't figure that out, or you believe you absolutely have to go to one extreme or the other, then you have issues that will require professional help that can't be found on a forum.

i have heard plenty of talk about oil analysis tests, but aside from maybe a racer and heavy equipment operator, i've personally never known anyone to do it with daily drivers. what is the turn around time and price for these? for many vehicles i can't see it being too cost effective to test to determine, as an oil change for most vehicles is in the $20-$40 range. if you have an extreme cost difference then maybe it will be worth it to do it. where i live you can beat and abuse the living daylights out of an engine and it will still likely outlast the vehicle due to rust.

sure, being environmentally responsible is a good thing, but there are a lot of variables there too. i drive a low economy truck, but i stack my trips as much as possible and don't idle more than necessary. i see lots of people who run the roads constantly instead of planning multiple stops for one trip. i have also seen people who will idle in their air conditioned prius for 30+ minutes instead of using the air conditioned waiting room. still some will condemn others for being wasteful for doing one extra oil change a year. everyone has a different point of view, and apparently theirs is the only correct one.
 
   / Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles? #39  
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I'd gone to changing the (synthetic) oil in my convertible and pickup every 3 years because we only put 2-3k/yr miles on them. Plan to change oil in my diesel generator every 3rd year, too. Right now, it is well over a year old, and the oil hasn't even darkened yet.

Change the oil every 10k miles on our VW TDI, and we put about that many miles on it every year. It's synthetic, of course. Can only get the Castrol 5w30 for it.

Ralph
 
   / Changing oil and filter...do you go by the vehicle oil monitor or months & miles? #40  
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I was a every 3k oil changer. Not because I felt it was needed it just help justify the cost of a lift. I don't think it's wasteful since most used oil gets recycled and has another life.
 

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