Changing The Hydraulic Fluid

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Today was the day. Gorgeous weather allowed me to work in the driveway.

1. Found 5 gallon drain pans at Advanced Auto. {see attached}
2. Had to use a 3/4" socket wrench since I could not get enough torque with the shorter handle on my 1/2" wrench.
3. Changed the 2 hydraulic filters first, even though it was only 127 hours since they were changed at the 50 hour service. Took the old ones off, filled the new ones with oil and spun them back on. I found it easier to use the oil filter wrench to spin them the last 3/4 turn since I couldn't get my hand around the filter.
4. Removed the front plug, put one 5 gallon pan under it.
5. Removed the rear plug, put the second 5 gallon pan there and let both drain.
6. Once the front and rear were done draining, I replaced the plugs and then pulled the center plug and let that drain.
7. I removed the tool box, which allowed me to use a standard funnel and pour the Amsoil in from a 5 gallon can. I could get all but the last half gallon into the tractor. I learned this the hard way...when I tilted the can too far up and the stubby spout on the can was no longer pouring into the funnel. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
8. I then poured in final 3 gallons by using quart bottles.

Wasn't too bad a job. This winter will tell if switching to synthetic quiets the system.

I also noticed the rear hose clamp, on the short hose above the front hyd filter was loose, for the second time in 2 years. It was dripping fluid onto the filter, so I tightened it. I would not have seen this if I had replaced the side panel, since the panel hides most of the filter. You Class II Boomer owners might want to check both of these hose clamps.
 

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Mike, I don't recall reading your reasons for choosing Amsoil over New Holland F200 which is the recommended substitute by NH. Was it price or did you choose Amsoil on some other recommendation? I don't have any preference at all...just curious.
 
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<font color="blue"> Mike, I don't recall reading your reasons for choosing Amsoil over New Holland F200 which is the recommended substitute by NH. </font>
My NH dealer has 2 locations, each about the same distance from my home. I called the location that sells only NH (the other location sells NH as well as Kubota) and asked about F200. I was put on hold for about 30 seconds while they checked inventory. They didn't stock F200, but they'd check the other location. One minute later they came back and said the other location didn't stock F200 either. They said when someone wants F200, they used Kubota's synthetic (Super UDT?).

Since the price for the Kubota synthetic was about the same as Amsoil, I went with Amsoil instead of driving to the dealer.
 
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That's very interesting. I guess they don't get many requests for synthetic or they would have some in stock. I'm sure the Kubota UDT is fine also. I guess what that "says" is that Kubota sells more synthetic than New Holland does. I'll bet you have good luck with the Amsoil and I'm really interested in its whine-reduction properties. I feel like we'll get a really good and objective report from you. I'm looking forward to hearing what you find out when the temperatures turn cold. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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Went with AMSOIL last fall for the same reasons you mentioned and it made a huge difference. Temps this winter in the single digits didn't seem to affect the AMSOIL. No more noise and slow hydraulics even before fluid heated up. I think you'll be pleased. The price of the AMSOIL stings but it seems to be a good product. Have read some post since that suggest that there are some other synthetic fluids out there that aren't quite as expensive. Had the exact same hose clamp issue on my TC33D.
 
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This is the same answer I got here, where its typically colder. Very few use F200 and its *much* more expensive than 134 and only comes in 5 gal buckets. Initially my dealer was telling me that F200 wasnt an all season fluid and directed me to an Exxon fluid for winter use (which he stocked).
 
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I notied that the spec sheet states "Controlled Seal Swell" and also that the fluid doesn't claim to meet Super UDT or F200. Not sure if the latter really are specs or not, but really wondering why we need a fluid that swells the seals. Unless our equipment is old, I'm not interested in such an additive, that in the end only shortens the life of the seals.

Also, can anyone confirm that Super UDT and also F200 truly are pure synthetics?

Any thoughts??
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( No thoughts on this??? )</font>

I like 134A. It's cheaper to replace when it runs out on the ground. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
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<font color="blue"> Also, can anyone confirm that Super UDT and also F200 truly are pure synthetics?</font>
Nope, I can't confirm this.

<font color="blue">Any thoughts?? </font>
I switched to Amsoil.
 

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