Channel Drain or French Drain ??

[lexluther]

I installed a very shallow section of perforated corrigated pipe barely covered by rock hoping to drain and direct the water from my roof and a large patio towards my pond.

Nothing ever discharged from the pipe, so I assumed a clog. Ran the hose on full blast, snaked it all the way through, still no drainage out the end except when the hose came out the other end.

It's very surprising since our soil doesn't "perk" a small french drain could be very effective at just diffusing the water back into the soil.

 

[NE Snowblower]

I installed a very shallow section of perforated corrigated pipe barely covered by rock hoping to drain and direct the water from my roof and a large patio towards my pond.

Nothing ever discharged from the pipe, so I assumed a clog. Ran the hose on full blast, snaked it all the way through, still no drainage out the end except when the hose came out the other end.

It's very surprising since our soil doesn't "perk" a small french drain could be very effective at just diffusing the water back into the soil.

I might try the french drain using the NDS EZFLow system first. It doesn't require any gravel and is supposed to last quite a long time. I think it will be the cheapest and easiest solution. I'll have to rent a trencher & Demolition Hammer from Home Depot since my land is very rocky. Hopefully the first 12 to 18 inches I dig won't have to much rock

 

[Snobdds]

I would add a catch basin right in the corner with an open drain that connects to a french drain that runs down the permiter of your drive way. Then have it discharge off into the yard somewhere.

 

[HCJtractor]

Curious . Can't see from the photo, but what's the elevation on the left of the drive going uphill? in other words, is the drive acting as a dam, preventing the water going left? If so, could you either cut a chanel in the drive across it, place a grate style drain behind your parking pad and across the drive, to divert the water that direction? Or tunnel under the drive, doing the same thing. I think you need to consider the overall elevation on both sides of the drive, and ask where the water would go without the drive. Then create the drainage channels to allow for its natural flow.

I would want to be sure any drainage channel i made wouldn't create a gully over time.

 

[NE Snowblower]

Curious . Can't see from the photo, but what's the elevation on the left of the drive going uphill? in other words, is the drive acting as a dam, preventing the water going left? If so, could you either cut a chanel in the drive across it, place a grate style drain behind your parking pad and across the drive, to divert the water that direction? Or tunnel under the drive, doing the same thing. I think you need to consider the overall elevation on both sides of the drive, and ask where the water would go without the drive. Then create the drainage channels to allow for its natural flow.

I would want to be sure any drainage channel i made wouldn't create a gully over time.

Actually yes, the driveway does act as a dam. As the water accumulates it overflows where the orange driveway marker is. That's the issue during winter when it freezes and becomes a sheet of ice. But tunneling under the driveway will be a tough task. There are irrigation pipes across the driveway, so hitting one pf those wouldn't be fun. But the entire contour of the land tilts to the left and down and that's the way the water wants to flow. So I think my only option is try and divert it right and then down

 

[prichard]

Why not raise the ground level up so driveway is lower than grass? Let the driveway carry it down the hill?

 

[NE Snowblower]

Because up here in God's country, when it warms up and melts during the day, it freezes when the sun goes down and it become a sheet of ice. That's what I'm trying to circumvent

 

[Woody65]

You could install a drain tile a cross the driveway like the ones used and the entrances to garages. Just cut the asphalt to the width of the drain tile, about 4 inches, and install it level with the driveway. They are made to be driven over. Also, you say the slope of the land goes in that direction, so just an outlet at the other side of the driveway will allow it to drain out harmlessly.










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[lexluther]

I might try the french drain using the NDS EZFLow system first. It doesn't require any gravel and is supposed to last quite a long time. I think it will be the cheapest and easiest solution. I'll have to rent a trencher & Demolition Hammer from Home Depot since my land is very rocky. Hopefully the first 12 to 18 inches I dig won't have to much rockView attachment 496313

This seems like a great idea, I just used what I had around, and was surprised by the results

 

[HCJtractor]

You could install a drain tile a cross the driveway like the ones used and the entrances to garages. Just cut the asphalt to the width of the drain tile, about 4 inches, and install it level with the driveway. They are made to be driven over. Also, you say the slope of the land goes in that direction, so just an outlet at the other side of the driveway will allow it to drain out harmlessly. <img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=496377"/> <img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=496378"/> Like these......

That looks like the best solution. Ive seen these made of plastic and also a ceramic made to embed in concrete. Regardless, thus should solve the problem . Perhaps also incorporate a catch basin into this system to collect the water below the parking pad. The out flow end could if necessary continue through a standard buried black plastic corrugated pipe