Check my logic, please

   / Check my logic, please
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#11  
A good comparison but not perfect would be a gas push mower. Go off of those numbers for reference

Good suggestion. A 6.5 HP gas engine torque is approx. 8 ft-lb @ 2500 RPM which should be broadly within the framework of my project.
 
   / Check my logic, please #12  
For further clarification, the 7 GPM PTO pump coupled with a 10 gl. tank is dedicated to the loader . I don稚 want to invest in another pump and I was hoping to use one of the motors I have. The project is a small 21 deck vertically mounted to the side of the bucket.
In my way of thinking using motor #2 with 7 GPM pump, would cut the 18 GPM and the torque to approx. 40%, but the blade with a 5x speed increase would run about 1500 RPM (theoretically). I can easily increase the speed to 6x which would give a speed of 1800 RPM. The question is the 400 lb-in be enough for a 21 blade?
Actually, lower flow (GPM) will give you lower speed, but the torque is a function of pressure.
 
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#13  
Actually, lower flow (GPM) will give you lower speed, but the torque is a function of pressure.

So what does it mean in my situation, the torque with lower GPM will not change?
 
   / Check my logic, please #14  
Your tractor is not suited to your desire to run the 21" mower. It doesn't have enough GPM to spare to run your mower blades at adequate RPMs, while allowing for adequate flow and hyd fluid cooling for your tractor You wanting to not spend adequate $ to set it up so it 'might' work adequately, and not to scorch your tractor's hydraulic fluid are incongruent.
IMHO, unless you buy or find parts necessary to guarantee enough flow for both tractor and mower, you should abandon the project.
For what uses exactly do you want to hang a 21" mower on your bucket? There may be other ways to accomplish your task(s).
 
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#15  
Your tractor is not suited to your desire to run the 21" mower. It doesn't have enough GPM to spare to run your mower blades at adequate RPMs, while allowing for adequate flow and hyd fluid cooling for your tractor You wanting to not spend adequate $ to set it up so it 'might' work adequately, and not to scorch your tractor's hydraulic fluid are incongruent.
IMHO, unless you buy or find parts necessary to guarantee enough flow for both tractor and mower, you should abandon the project.
For what uses exactly do you want to hang a 21" mower on your bucket? There may be other ways to accomplish your task(s).

The reason why I don’t want to change my loader PTO pump and tank is because this project is not exactly high priority. If it would work with what I got, fine, otherwise I can skip it. I do have other ways of accomplishing the task, like a modified walk-behind sickle bar mounted on the bucket. This bar, however is not suitable for any growth bigger than 1/2” at best. Also it is a PITA to mount. I was looking for something simpler.
I remember few years back reading one of your posting when you purchase your Samurai, and you were pretty happy with it. It’s amazing that it does a good job running just with 3 GPM (if I remember correctly). Anyway it’s a sweet machine, but man, it’s not cheap.
Another alternative I could have without using hydraulics is to mount the deck with a horizontal electric-start gas engine... possibility.
 
   / Check my logic, please #16  
So what does it mean in my situation, the torque with lower GPM will not change?

No. But since horsepower is a function of torque and speed, you'll have less power.
 
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#17  
No. But since horsepower is a function of torque and speed, you'll have less power.

It makes sense. But I will try a quick down'n'dirty prototype just to satisfy myself.
 
   / Check my logic, please #18  
The next best thing would be a 2 cycle lawn mower. There still around, but parts are mostly NLA.
 
   / Check my logic, please #20  
Why are you looking at such low speed high gpm motors for?

They make about every possible rpm and flow motor there is.

Your tractor makes 7gpm.....say you want to dedicate 4 gpm to that. And you want 1500rpm....

Just select a pump that will produce 1500rpm at 4 gpm.

No point in buying a slow pump....and slowing it down even more by not delivering the flow.....just to step it back up via a 5:1 pulley. Which by the way....is an EXTREME step to do with a single belt. If your mower pullet is a mere 4" diameter.....that means you need a big honking 20" pulley on the motor.
 

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