Chevy Volt Halted. Who did not see this coming?

[Diamondpilot]

GM stalls Chevy Volt production- MSN Money

Chris

 

[EddieWalker]

Hard to believe that nobody wants to spend $40,000 on a golf cart.

Eddie

 

[timswi]

Hard to believe that nobody wants to spend $40,000 on a golf cart.

Eddie

That car was just too expensive..Including all of the subsidies that shouldn't be there...The Volt isn't the only one getting them though...

The concept is ok for a commuter vehicle, they just missed the mark on cost.

I'm not a fan of coal-fired cars.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Yep, crazy.....

The math will never work. My niece got a base model Civic, auto tranny, power locks, power windows, CD, and sunroof. It gets 35+ mpg on the highway and has averaged 33 mpg since day one. Cost about $18,000 At that rate and $4 per gallon gas she can drive the car for 100,000 miles for $12,000. That puts the total cost at $30,000 for the car.

The Volt at $41,000 even if the gas and electricity to recharge it were free would never come close. Heck, I went to publik skool and can figure that out.

My neighbor does not get it either. I talk about him all the time on here. Nice guy but just went out and bought a VW Diesel. $33,000 and its averaged 39 mpg in the two weeks they have had it. Yes, that is much better than the 15 mpg the Lincoln Aviator they traded in on it got but it was also paid off and owed them nothing. 39 mpg is nice economy but it burns $4.20 per gallon diesel. Thats about $.11 per mile for fuel. That same Civic mentioned above would get 33 mpg with $4 gas would cost $.12 per mile. So at a penny per mile difference that VW diesel will take 1,500,000 miles to break even.:confused2:

I would have keep the Aviator since it was paid off, in good condition, and only had 118,000 miles. Only repairs since new was a battery, a vacuum hose, a right front tie rod end, a set of rotors on the rear, and one full set of brakes having the front rotors turned. Oh yea, 3 sets of tires. I did every oil change and maintenance since new.

Chris

 

[rekees4300]

Hard to believe that nobody wants to spend $40,000 on a golf cart.

Eddie

:laughing:

Volt = new Edsel

 

[grsthegreat]

YUP - thought that would happen. 41K for a 50 mile battery. pretty nuts

 

[oldnslo]

Has anyone done the cost analysis on Hybrids Vs standard vehicle to see how cost effective they are? When I purchased our 08 Camry they where introducing the Hybrid. At that time the sticker price was around $4000 difference for a comparably equipped car. I do not recall the claimed mileage difference between the two but I don't think it was more than 10 MPG highway.

Roy

 

[Dmace]

I never bought into the hybrid crap and never will. That's what I like about Mazda and the new Mazda3 we picked up. They skipped hybrid tech and redesigned the engine, trans, chassis, etc... instead.
Our 2012 Mazda3i touring loaded with everything but a sunroof/leather was $21k with the new SkyActiv direct injected 155hp 4-cyl 2.0l rated at 28/40 mpg with a new 6 speed auto returns 35 mpg mixed and is a blast to drive!

 

[jeffsw6]

The math will never work.
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$4 per gallon gas she can drive the car for 100,000 miles for $12,000.

I am surprised they idled Volt production instead of just kept taking losses on it; I am eating crow on that one. But I believe it is important that we develop electric car technology, manufacturing process, battery supply/materials chain, and so on.

In ten or twenty years we might be nostalgic for the days of $4/gallon fuel. The developing world is ... developing ... and so is its oil consumption. On the other hand, oil production is flat. In the U.S. we have several different resources we can use to make electricity; coal, nuclear, hydro, blablah. Whether or not they are "clean" compared to dinosaur juice, I don't know; but at least the money from coal electricity stays largely within our country.

 

[grsthegreat]

I am surprised they idled Volt production instead of just kept taking losses on it; I am eating crow on that one. But I believe it is important that we develop electric car technology, manufacturing process, battery supply/materials chain, and so on.

In ten or twenty years we might be nostalgic for the days of $4/gallon fuel. The developing world is ... developing ... and so is its oil consumption. On the other hand, oil production is flat. In the U.S. we have several different resources we can use to make electricity; coal, nuclear, hydro, blablah. Whether or not they are "clean" compared to dinosaur juice, I don't know; but at least the money from coal electricity stays largely within our country.

Exactly. And now instead of using our coal and trying to make it burn clean, were shipping it to China ,.. where they DONT burn clean and are creating as much...if not more...pollution than we would have if burnt here. its truly green insanity.