Child Seat on a Kubota

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RoyJackson

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I'd seen this a few days ago, but the thread about the Montana farmer rolling a CUT sparked me to open this thread. Who knows...maybe someone who knows the owner of this tractor will give him a word to the wise...

The tractor is an older Kubota...about the size of a 2910 or 7800. It has a FEL.

It also has a rigged up child seat behind the ROPS. The's a seat belt for the seat, so I suppose the owner thinks the ROPS will protect both operator and child in a roll over. Well, it might in Side roll over, but if that machine flips backwards...there would be a very tragic end.

I always cringe when I see a small child riding with a parent on a lawn tractor. I don't have kids, but I know what an insistent child is like. But I still cringe...

As far as the child seat...it's in Glen Rock, PA on the main street through town.
 
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Roy,

Your right!! I don't think the ROPS would protect the child at all in a flip back situation. And what age child would be in this seat?

I have a neighbor kid that loves to ride on the tractor with. I have my seat belt on and he stands right in front of me. He likes to steer and I will let him steer but only on level ground. He is only 3 years old but he can run the loader. I have to tell him to scoop, dump, lift or lower. He knows what to do with the joystick to accomlish them things. But I do have to tell him when. But my main job is to make sure I hold on to him in case anything did happen. I wrap my arms around him and lock my fingers together. And he knows not come around my tractor unless the tractor is off and I tell him to when to come.

But the child seat thing I don't think much of it.

murph
 
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Safety and accidents never take a day off. When that 3 year old child is 8 years old, he might just take that tractor for a ride when no one is home and there is no way to tell what will happen. We have seen it happen with children when the grandparent allows them to "steer" the car.... later on the steal the keys and take the car for a ride, thinking that they can operate the car safely even though they are half the legal age to drive. Why not share a beer with them, but only allow them to have a small sip? It amounts to the same thing.

It always happens to someone else.... click here..
 
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Junkman,

Your right, he may at 8 take it for a ride. But I am more worried about him taking his dads 4 wheeler or lawn tractor out first. My tractor I have not taught him how to start it yet and the ignition on the New Holland TC29D isn't just turn it to the right. Anyway my tractor is usually locked in my garage and the key is in the house locked. So like I said I worry more about his own equipment.

murph
 
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When I was 8 I used to rake hay and run the skidsteer loader. I suppose it was risky but I survived it. When did we become a nation of wimps who were afraid of everything?
 
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Between when you ere 8 and now, machinery has changed a lot and when you were 8 you were probably a lot more responsible than any 8 year old today. We aren't a nation of wimps, but if you put a 8 year old on a tractor today, and the child gets hurt, then the government is going to prosecute you for child endangerment. They also didn't do that when you were 8. A lot of things have changed through the years and what was once safe, is no longer because of all the other things that have changed. Sure the old machinery was much more crude than todays modern machinery, but it also worked much slower and as a result you had a better chance not to get hurt. It also made a lot more noise that also warned you of the moving parts. With all the new safety devices in cars, I see more people being involved in more severe accidents, because the new cars can go faster and not give the "feel" of the road like the old cars. The other thing is that younger people haven't the common sense of there peers of 40 years ago. Back then there wasn't as much to distract you from the driving prospective. Today, there is a lot more distractions while driving and some people can't even figure out where they are headed, but they are in a rush to get there. Life has changed since you were 8.....
 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah .... it's a really dangerous environment out there these days Junk /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ........ I don't think so ......

The fumdental fact is that inhibiting anyone's ability to control their environment or any part of it doesn't make the individual more capable ...... it in fact makes them LESS capable.

Why do you think the youth of today are less responsible and have less common sense ? It's largely because they are being over "protected", are allowed to do not much else than sit around and watch the boob tube or play video games and as a result of lack of experience they end up lacking "common sense"

My neighbor's grandson who lives with him is 11. He (the grandson) runs a 743 Bobcat skidsteer, brushogs with our old IH 444 (now the neighbor's) and 6' cutter, runs a full-size JD TLB, and JD ZTR with a 6' deck. I've let him run the backhoe on my B2910.

The kid is:

1. Hardworking - he's more interesting in being outside and doing something useful than being indoors, watching TV, and playing video games - and can't figure out the other kids who do. He comes down to our place constantly and is always looking for something (work) to do. I was out tearing up more of the driveway a couple of days ago and he's there throwing chunks of asphalt in the bucket of the loader - big pieces (for him) - probably 25 to 35 pounders (the kid probably doesn't weigh but 70 or 80 himself) He mows a couple of neighbors' yards and does other odd jobs. He is all the time trying to clean and straighten up my shed (which is usually a perpetual mess) - only problem I have with it is that it's sometimes hard to find things after he's finished - but he does a dang good job of it otherwise /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

2. Interested and listens. I always try to tell him about the safety aspects of whatever we might be doing, along with basic knowledge and understanding that he might someday have a use for. People become disinterested and unwilling to accept instruction when you STOP them enough from being active and particpating in some area of life which they have an interest and a purpose in.

3. Responsible. If given a task he'll do it - or come back and report that there is a problem or he needs some help. And he is aware of what a properly done/professional job is and attempts to do each task to the best of hsi ability. He cleans up after himself, puts tools away when the job is done and will do it without being told to. He just knows.

4. Motivated. This kid plans to have his own "tractor" business by the time he is 16. His big dilemma right now is dealing with the logistical issues posed by being a minor and owning a business - which he is somewhat, if not completely, aware of. I have no doubt that he will do it - and will be successful at it.

The fact is, most kids at somewhere around the age of 12 or so are ready to start Life and get on with it ... anything one can do to contribute to that is a good thing - but minimally one needs to at least not get in the way too much and inhibit their own self-determined interest and activity.

Of course I don't disagree that it would irresponsible to let some kids do certain things - but the point I'm making is that if one is always coaching towards a greater ability, and a greater competence, that is the only way to have more able individuals, and thence a more able society, in the long run.

FWIW, I started working in parents business during summer vacation when I was 11, dusting shelves - minimum of 4 to 6 hours per day, 30 to 40 hours per week. After that summer I was expected to be working at least some part of every summer. If it wasn't in the business then it was working in Dad's one acre garden. When I got my license at 16, I started working (full-time, 40 hours per week) in the business after school and on weekends.

For me it took quite awhile - after a number of wrong turns in the road of Life ..... probably until I was 25 or 30 - to really appreciate that I had learned the value of work. In my book that's a good thing to have learned and there pretty much isn't a day that goes by that I don't think fondly of my parents for 1. demanding that I Do Something, and 2. being willing to allow me to fail or succeed.
 
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There has been 2 small children killed in my area this year by garden tractors this spring. The first was a small child sitting on his Grandpas lap and fell off and was run over by the rear tiller. The second one was a child on a big wheel that collided with a garden tractor that the boys grandmother was mowing with. It knocked the boy off and she ran over his head with the lawn mower, he later died at the hospital. They both were accidents but that would be mighty hard to live with. My thoughts and prays go out to both families.
 
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i think rswyan has hit the nail on the head. The problem is a downward spiral, the stop us from doing stuff so people have to stop and play computer games, so were seen as irresponsible so we can do less, so more play computer games ect..... its like stopping people from doing it in the first place is gunna stop them from endangering themselves, but when its legal to do it they have no snese and kill themselves, a bit extreme example but it conveys my point
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( logistical issues posed by being a minor and owning a business )</font>
too right, people think 'yea right' because they stereotype about the 'town' youth who cause trouble, youre not actually allowed to work under certain ages, insurance is a no no, people dont take you seriously - try walking into a dealership and asking for tractor quotes - that gets a good laugh /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif i could go on
the odds are stacked up aginst a young guy getting a decent go on life early, i kinda see why its easier to play on computer games, but i cant believe people who i know who are always broke, have no job and cant be &^%(* to get one, i mean i can always get chips when i want, even if it does cost me 1/4 an hours work.

anyway thats what it appears from my slanted (mainly upward) view on the way things are, but hey i still enjoy myself, not playing computer games /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( There has been 2 small children killed in my area this year by garden tractors this spring. The first was a small child sitting on his Grandpas lap and fell off and was run over by the rear tiller. The second one was a child on a big wheel that collided with a garden tractor that the boys grandmother was mowing with. It knocked the boy off and she ran over his head with the lawn mower, he later died at the hospital. They both were accidents but that would be mighty hard to live with. My thoughts and prays go out to both families. )</font>


Both of these incidents involve old people with poor reaction times.
 

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