RobS
Super Member
Our 2 1/2 year old has taken to disabling most of the child proofing himself. Drives my wife crazy, but in an odd sort of way I'm kinda proud of the little guy /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Childproof locks
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Bird
Rest in Peace
I agree with you, Ernie. I still remember when a cousin fell out of their car when he was about 5 years old and opened a back door going down the road. He was extremely lucky to only have minor injuries.
Bird
Bird
PitbullMidwest
Platinum Member
Re: Childproof locks - and teachers
cowboydoc,
Your daughter's experiece sounds a lot like mine as a high school freshman (without the crying of course /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif). My algabra teacher was hired without any experience in teaching math at any level, he was the wrestling coach. His teaching method was to copy the day's lesson from his book onto the chalkboard, have us copy it down then go to work. If you didn't understand you could come in after school and review his book or talk to student voluteers who understood it. Plain and simple, I didn't understand it.
My mother showed me how she learned algabra and the light came on. Even though the answers where right, I failed my mid-term test because the teacher said my work was different from his book and accused me of cheating. My parents got the same "uniformity" argument from the principal that you heard but refused to accept it. My test was given to another teacher to grade and he gave me a "B". Coach moved to another school after wrestling season was over.
My kids attend the local Christian school run by our church. If homeschooling is not an option doc, I know the QC area has a number of fine Christian schools.
cowboydoc,
Your daughter's experiece sounds a lot like mine as a high school freshman (without the crying of course /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif). My algabra teacher was hired without any experience in teaching math at any level, he was the wrestling coach. His teaching method was to copy the day's lesson from his book onto the chalkboard, have us copy it down then go to work. If you didn't understand you could come in after school and review his book or talk to student voluteers who understood it. Plain and simple, I didn't understand it.
My mother showed me how she learned algabra and the light came on. Even though the answers where right, I failed my mid-term test because the teacher said my work was different from his book and accused me of cheating. My parents got the same "uniformity" argument from the principal that you heard but refused to accept it. My test was given to another teacher to grade and he gave me a "B". Coach moved to another school after wrestling season was over.
My kids attend the local Christian school run by our church. If homeschooling is not an option doc, I know the QC area has a number of fine Christian schools.
CVHoss
Gold Member
Ernie,
I'd have to believe that the childproof locks are aimed at the 4-8 (or so) age group. Prior to 4, they're usually buckled up in a car seat that doesn't allow enough movement to reach a door handle. By 9 or 10, they will hopefully be old enough to realize the bad things that could happen if they open the door while the car is moving. At 6, they are just too curious about things. If this person confronts you again, I'd tell her that you need her to draw up a paper saying that school policy requires you to disable the childproof locks on your car to expedite drop-off and she then needs to sign it. Tell her your lawyer wants this so you'll know who to sue when one of your kids gets injured from opening the doors after the locks are disabled. I'll bet that shuts her up.
Hoss
I'd have to believe that the childproof locks are aimed at the 4-8 (or so) age group. Prior to 4, they're usually buckled up in a car seat that doesn't allow enough movement to reach a door handle. By 9 or 10, they will hopefully be old enough to realize the bad things that could happen if they open the door while the car is moving. At 6, they are just too curious about things. If this person confronts you again, I'd tell her that you need her to draw up a paper saying that school policy requires you to disable the childproof locks on your car to expedite drop-off and she then needs to sign it. Tell her your lawyer wants this so you'll know who to sue when one of your kids gets injured from opening the doors after the locks are disabled. I'll bet that shuts her up.
Hoss
Well, I didn't think I was being overly protective, its good to hear that so many of you agree. I figure when they get old enough I'll just know it. The girl will usually stay occupied with a book or toy, but the boy will fool with anything he can get his hands on. The darn things were made for kids like him.
I guess I'm not the only one who has had problems with school. Several have said exactly what I have been thinking . Thanks to all. BTW, the last couple of days I had to take them in the dump truck,, no childproof locks, but I have to park down the road, and walk the kids back to school. No problem for them anyway.
Ernie
I guess I'm not the only one who has had problems with school. Several have said exactly what I have been thinking . Thanks to all. BTW, the last couple of days I had to take them in the dump truck,, no childproof locks, but I have to park down the road, and walk the kids back to school. No problem for them anyway.
Ernie
TerryinMD
Veteran Member
Ernie,
Geez, you missed a prime opportunity to have a little fun at the expense of that snooty teacher!!!
I encourage you to take your kids right up to the school in your dump truck. They would probably be the envy of all the children who watch. You could then ask the snooty teacher to step up and open the door to assist your children since the doors wouldn't have those terrible child proof locks. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
Terry
Geez, you missed a prime opportunity to have a little fun at the expense of that snooty teacher!!!
I encourage you to take your kids right up to the school in your dump truck. They would probably be the envy of all the children who watch. You could then ask the snooty teacher to step up and open the door to assist your children since the doors wouldn't have those terrible child proof locks. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
Terry
dmccarty
Super Star Member
ERNIEB,
My daughter is only 17+ months old so we don't have to worry about childproof door locks at this time. I'm not sure our Jeep has them. I had NEVER thought about them either.
So one GOOD thing about your post is you put the bug in my ear about the kid trying to open the car doors when she gets older......... So you and the others get a BIG THANKYOU! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
About the school/teacher. Yuck. I keep reading about all of these idiot teachers and PC that runs all through some of our schools. My wife is against sending our kid to a public school. I don't like the idea of private schools. I think everyone should have the same opportunities for an education up to the 12th grade. BUT I just see so much stupidity now a days. I had some pretty brain dead moron teachers in my schools but it seems to be much worse today. My cousin is homeschooling her kids and I'm seriously thinking of doing the same. If our public schools are as bad as they seem to be mean we have a very big problem.......
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Later....
Dan McCarty
My daughter is only 17+ months old so we don't have to worry about childproof door locks at this time. I'm not sure our Jeep has them. I had NEVER thought about them either.
So one GOOD thing about your post is you put the bug in my ear about the kid trying to open the car doors when she gets older......... So you and the others get a BIG THANKYOU! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
About the school/teacher. Yuck. I keep reading about all of these idiot teachers and PC that runs all through some of our schools. My wife is against sending our kid to a public school. I don't like the idea of private schools. I think everyone should have the same opportunities for an education up to the 12th grade. BUT I just see so much stupidity now a days. I had some pretty brain dead moron teachers in my schools but it seems to be much worse today. My cousin is homeschooling her kids and I'm seriously thinking of doing the same. If our public schools are as bad as they seem to be mean we have a very big problem.......
/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif
Later....
Dan McCarty
TerryinMD
Veteran Member
Dan,
Actually, we're all shooting the messangers!!
In our school district, most of the "rules, curriculum, guidelines, etc" are mandated at the state level. And guess what, a certain level of funding comes from the state. And that leds to the golden rule - "He who controls the gold sets the rules".
We have some excellent teachers whose hands are tied by the beauracracy. However, there are some idiots and those idiots need to be woken up now and again. These same idiots use the rules given to them to do what they please and teach whatever they wish because they're protected by the school administration.
I must stop... blood pressure is rising. /w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif
Terry
Actually, we're all shooting the messangers!!
In our school district, most of the "rules, curriculum, guidelines, etc" are mandated at the state level. And guess what, a certain level of funding comes from the state. And that leds to the golden rule - "He who controls the gold sets the rules".
We have some excellent teachers whose hands are tied by the beauracracy. However, there are some idiots and those idiots need to be woken up now and again. These same idiots use the rules given to them to do what they please and teach whatever they wish because they're protected by the school administration.
I must stop... blood pressure is rising. /w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif
Terry
dmccarty
Super Star Member
Terry,
You are right to a certain extent in that we are shooting the messangers. But I had some VERY bad teachers when I was in school and listening to coworkers deal with teachers today does not give me any reason to think things have improved. I had a PE teach who NEVER pronounced my last name correctly in the entire school year. NEVER. He was stoned every morning. Of course that gets back to what you are saying. It is the system that is the problem. How could this teacher, along with one other get, stoned every day without the principal knowing and doing something about the situation? The fact that the man was a teacher in the first place was a huge joke. I'm sure the man was a functional illiterate.
The good teachers are driven away because of the system and you are left with stoned, uneducated morons who are teaching. A coworkers wife left teaching this year because of the system. She just could not deal with the system and how it allowed her to teach. And she was teaching the kids with emotional and learning problems which some of the teachers that are so hard to find. She really loved what she did but just could not deal with the system any longer.
I had bad teachers but I had far more EXCELLENT teachers. But what I hear from coworkers, read in the paper, and hear from others, makes me think that public education has really declined from my days. And that is a very bad thing.
And its more than the school board. I think its the teacher unions, PC, and lawyers. Its the system that is messed up and I'll be danged if I know how to fix it so my only option left is to leave the system. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif
Having said that I still want my kid to go to a public school but their is no accountability for the teachers. If I'm paying money to a private school and I have a problem with a teacher I think it is more likely to get resolved than by the public monopoly school system. Course this implies that I have the money to send the kid to private school which ain't the case!..... /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif
I think I had better stop now since my blood pressure is starting to rise! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Later...
Dan McCarty
You are right to a certain extent in that we are shooting the messangers. But I had some VERY bad teachers when I was in school and listening to coworkers deal with teachers today does not give me any reason to think things have improved. I had a PE teach who NEVER pronounced my last name correctly in the entire school year. NEVER. He was stoned every morning. Of course that gets back to what you are saying. It is the system that is the problem. How could this teacher, along with one other get, stoned every day without the principal knowing and doing something about the situation? The fact that the man was a teacher in the first place was a huge joke. I'm sure the man was a functional illiterate.
The good teachers are driven away because of the system and you are left with stoned, uneducated morons who are teaching. A coworkers wife left teaching this year because of the system. She just could not deal with the system and how it allowed her to teach. And she was teaching the kids with emotional and learning problems which some of the teachers that are so hard to find. She really loved what she did but just could not deal with the system any longer.
I had bad teachers but I had far more EXCELLENT teachers. But what I hear from coworkers, read in the paper, and hear from others, makes me think that public education has really declined from my days. And that is a very bad thing.
And its more than the school board. I think its the teacher unions, PC, and lawyers. Its the system that is messed up and I'll be danged if I know how to fix it so my only option left is to leave the system. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif
Having said that I still want my kid to go to a public school but their is no accountability for the teachers. If I'm paying money to a private school and I have a problem with a teacher I think it is more likely to get resolved than by the public monopoly school system. Course this implies that I have the money to send the kid to private school which ain't the case!..... /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif
I think I had better stop now since my blood pressure is starting to rise! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Later...
Dan McCarty
TerryinMD
Veteran Member
Dan,
I wasn't going to reply but I just had to come back one more time. Hmmmm... heard that before. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
I stopped adding to my last response because I could drone on and on about the school system, teachers, etc.
I also wish I could afford to send my girls to a private school. Or do some home schooling. Home schooling was not considered because my wife and I did not think that we had the discipline and fortitude to take on the challange. We were being honest to ourselves and our children. Our local schools are average but they have a few very good, rock solid educators. A few bozos are there and the kids know how to work around them. The parents assist the kids in this endevour.
I was fortunate to go to private schools growing. Catholic grade school and high school. To go to the Catholic High School, you had to have the grades and take an aptitude test. (still wonder how I made it!!/w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif). When I attended, it cost $100 a year ('62-'66). Now, the same school costs over $5000 a year. However, upon graduation you are prepared for the future. A good education with high chances of getting into college. Did we have bad teachers - No! Did we have some jerks as teachers - yes! But, you got educated and disciplined at the same time. The jerks were usually the disciplinarians. The school asks for donations every year from its graduates and I gladly contribute. I got a good education and hope the little I give helps some poorer kid get a good start on life - just like I did.
Terry
I wasn't going to reply but I just had to come back one more time. Hmmmm... heard that before. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
I stopped adding to my last response because I could drone on and on about the school system, teachers, etc.
I also wish I could afford to send my girls to a private school. Or do some home schooling. Home schooling was not considered because my wife and I did not think that we had the discipline and fortitude to take on the challange. We were being honest to ourselves and our children. Our local schools are average but they have a few very good, rock solid educators. A few bozos are there and the kids know how to work around them. The parents assist the kids in this endevour.
I was fortunate to go to private schools growing. Catholic grade school and high school. To go to the Catholic High School, you had to have the grades and take an aptitude test. (still wonder how I made it!!/w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif). When I attended, it cost $100 a year ('62-'66). Now, the same school costs over $5000 a year. However, upon graduation you are prepared for the future. A good education with high chances of getting into college. Did we have bad teachers - No! Did we have some jerks as teachers - yes! But, you got educated and disciplined at the same time. The jerks were usually the disciplinarians. The school asks for donations every year from its graduates and I gladly contribute. I got a good education and hope the little I give helps some poorer kid get a good start on life - just like I did.
Terry