Chinese digger recommendations

[Carl_NH]

Hi Tex, I would venture to say that your Terror XIX has the 90MM stick or 3.54" and uses the standard QD for the bucket for these sizes - the Typhon web site sells the same auger $770 whether for the XVIII or the XIX with the 25MM pins.

If seems some of the 1/5-1.8T mini's have a 30MM pin and 4" stick width but those are unusual IMO. Usually the 30MM pins and 4" width stick are on the 2.5T and higher machines.

This one on ebay is less than $400. 150mm Diameter Auger Drill with Hoses for 1Ton-1.5Ton Mini Excavator | eBay

 

[TexTrctr]

Thanks Carl, I figured it was probably a "standard" size, and that someone was (and I can picture some guy with a wooden ruler doing this) just taking ad hoc measurements of a unit on a pallet on the loading dock...and, not so accurately, transposing them to a picture for an ad on the internet.
I saw the units you described and even one on AliExpress for $312, supposedly shipped from the US. I'm just not sure how much to trust some of these guys.

 

[Carl_NH]

I bought my 8" (200MM) auger and head on ebay for $320 delivered last August.
- They are heavy and awkward to manage when an auger is attached
- Auger doesn't like "small QD" on the BH stick valve- I plumbed in 15MM QD and it barely turned - had to direct connect - I will just attach with threaded fittings for the few times a year I use it.

Designing a multilevel storage setup now to hold all my buckets for Kubota (2 buckets, QA snow plow, pallet forks, and grapple) and for mini - 4 buckets and auger). May build a vertical rack on a dolly for the mini accessories and auger as they are smaller.

 

[dfkrug]

Designing a multilevel storage setup now to hold all my buckets for Kubota (2 buckets, QA snow plow, pallet forks, and grapple) and for mini - 4 buckets and auger). May build a vertical rack on a dolly for the mini accessories and auger as they are smaller.

Dunno if you said earlier: have you tried to fit your B21 bucket on the mini-X? Pin sizes are also 25mm, as I recall. I don't recall the dipper stick width.

 

[TexTrctr]

On the subject of augers, have any of you used a 12" bit on your mini? I think it would be a better overall fit for my needs but I didnt know if it was too much for the hydraulics in anything but sand.

 

[Carl_NH]

Dunno if you said earlier: have you tried to fit your B21 bucket on the mini-X? Pin sizes are also 25mm, as I recall. I don't recall the dipper stick width.

DF on the B21 its very close - 3.65" width vs 3.6" on the mini, but the pins are 6" on center vs 4" on center on the mini. I only have the 16" BH bucket and the ripper tooth for the B21. Then I installed the Hyd thumb last spring on the B21 making it more work to change.

But I plan to use the ripper tooth on the mini - just can't use the quick attach on the mini - need to pin it on as the 6" on center should be OK on the mini.

 

[Jrasband]

I am pulling the trigger on a Kymron XH20D today. Getting it with a 12" auger, 8" bucket, ripper, and 32" tilt bucket.

Yes it is expensive but these Kymron machines seem like excellent quality. Hopefully in the long run it will be a great choice.

KYMRON XH20D

 

[Carl_NH]

Tex - I haven't dug holes yet - just got it in the fall. I did install it and do a quick test with the 8" - we have a lot of rock here and seems to wander more left/right when encountering rocks/roots due to the Stick/Boom/House play (more joints to flex).

I ran a Bobcat MT100 two years ago installing 900' of fence, with an 8" and also18" auger to prep for tree planting and the 18" with more space between auger vanes cleared 4-6" size rocks easily. The auger head attaches directly to the Bobcat SSQA so is more rigid and didn't wander much.

Sum and substance, the mini will probably manage a 12" OK - just depends on your soils.

 

[Carl_NH]

I am pulling the trigger on a Kymron XH20D today. Getting it with a 12" auger, 8" bucket, ripper, and 32" tilt bucket.

Yes it is expensive but these Kymron machines seem like excellent quality. Hopefully in the long run it will be a great choice.

KYMRON XH20D

Congratulations - looks like a very nice machine and well outfitted! I like the fit and finish on that machine, larger tracks and the Yanmar too! Good choice.

The YH20D model (with smaller Kubota engine, and shorter tracks) appears to be a Hightop same as my machine - but a few a nicer features included - thumb and valve,gauges etc..

 

[dfkrug]

But I plan to use the ripper tooth on the mini - just can't use the quick attach on the mini - need to pin it on as the 6" on center should be OK on the mini.

I see your thumb shares the bucket pin on the B21. That makes it tougher to change buckets.

For what it is worth, changing buckets or my ripper tooth on my XN08 is super-easy, even without a QA. Much easier than any of my many backhoe attachments. The ripper tooth is awesome.