Chip or burn wood?

   / Chip or burn wood? #11  
Eddie, it sounds like you're making piles with a dozer and I wouldn't even consider anything but 5GL of deisel and a match.

While I have done allot of burn piles with the dozer, especially when creating my lake, it's the worse way to pile up trees. Even with a rake, it moves adds allot of dirt to the pile.

The grapple is the very best way to build up a burn pile. Just pick em up and carry them to the pile. No added dirt and you get a burn that seems to last allot longer and is also seems to burn more of the wood. I've never had a burn that got all of it, so even after a week of non stop burning, I still have to pick up and move stuff around to get it all to burn.

I also quit using diesel awhile ago. Now I use paper and charcoal lighting fluid. Per gallon, diesel is allot cheaper, but this is really easy and it works great. I keep the charcoal fluid in the tractor and when I want to start the fire, it's just a quick squirt on some newspaper and cardboard to get things going.

Eddie
 

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   / Chip or burn wood? #12  
We've had 2 big burn piles in our neighborhood. The one pictured was just a pile that everyone threw stuff on and sat for a year. It compacted to the point that it didn't burn very well and left a big mess. The second pile was stacked like a teepee and burned really nice with a small debris pile leftover. We put in a firepit and burn the stuff too small for firewood that way. The brush we haul to the dump in the spring where they chip it all for mulch. Burn piles can be fun since they draw a crowd but they require some time to tend and clean up afterwards. Chippers are nice because the problem is gone immediately. Depends on what you want to accomplish and the land you manage. If you have a spot to burn where you don't have to look at it then burning is easier and much cheaper in the long run. A chipper is expensive, but cleans things up as you go and can go right to the brush. You can also make some cash with them from people who have brush but can't or don't want to burn. If I had the need I'd love a chipper for the instant gratification of finishing the job NOW. Burn piles take the better part of the day and then clean up but you can't cook hot dogs over a chipper:)
 

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   / Chip or burn wood? #13  
IMHO, there is no question..... Burn...

For me, it is a time factor to consider... chipping takes a lot of time and work and I have too much to do anyhow.. push it into a pile and burn..
 
   / Chip or burn wood?
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#14  
Great input, please keep it coming. In my particular situation, the about 20 acres that I would like to clean is very heavily wooded on top of a plateau. There are some trails to get there with the tractor, and perhaps pull a 5x10 trailer with a Jeep if it is not too wet. Some trails have a very steep grade. When the trees have leaves, it is like a canopy - the sun light does not reach the ground. Ferns grow wild in this environment.

My instinct tells me that it will not be a good idea to make a wood pile anywhere in the heavily wodded area and burn it, or I may end up burning my property and a big chunk of the Washington National Forest. So I am thinking that in terms of effort, I might be better off chipping all I can in place and haul what I can't chip for firewood or to a burn pile away from the wooded area. Anyone has a different opinion? Or strongly agree?
 
   / Chip or burn wood? #15  
I have the exact same sitiuation in my development. The stuff I want to get rid of is all over the place and needs to be collected by hand and dragged or carted to a burn pile. Our land was originally owned by a man who did maple syrup and believed in keeping the woods clean for ease of access and appearance. The land he still owns is beautifully maintained and as a hobby, i try to do the same on our roadsides and common areas. It looks better and keeps the insect population down. That's the perfect situation for a chipper. Drive up in the woods, do a section and move on. Much faster than like I do, pull the stuff out to the trailer and then bring it to the dump for mulching. Even with the burn pile, you had to get it there, then unload. With 20 acres, I'd get the chipper for sure. You can hook it up and go have fun for a couple of hours and see instant gratification. I find a lot of satisfaction in cleaning up the woods. Good exercise outdoors and the neighbors have all said how much nicer it looks. From a mess into a park like setting. Put in a fire pit for the bigger stuff and you're golden.
 
   / Chip or burn wood? #16  
Burn piles take the better part of the day and then clean up but you can't cook hot dogs over a chipper
Those little "hot dogs" in the picture should probably not be cooked anyway:p
Would go through the chipper pretty quickly though:eek:
 
   / Chip or burn wood? #17  
Exactly. I only have one burn pit on my property and I'm not hauling brush there to burn it, it would take forever. Besides I can only burn at certain times of the year and not during the dry summer months. Most of my property is heavily wooded so I use a 4" PTO chipper. Works great - haul it around on my tractor and chip on the spot. Nice and clean. Anything else goes to firewood. As for speed, it's only my opinion but I think chipping is faster - I can get rid of a 4" x 25' tree in just seconds - it would take a lot longer to burn it.

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My instinct tells me that it will not be a good idea to make a wood pile anywhere in the heavily wodded area and burn it, or I may end up burning my property and a big chunk of the Washington National Forest. So I am thinking that in terms of effort, I might be better off chipping all I can in place and haul what I can't chip for firewood or to a burn pile away from the wooded area. Anyone has a different opinion? Or strongly agree?
 
   / Chip or burn wood? #18  
I wonder what is the forum wisdom on whether to chip scrap wood - that is branches or anything you wouldn't use as fire wood, or just pile it and burn it.

The related questions are:
Is it the same amount of work or is one method simpler than the other?
Is it worth investing on a wood chipper? Even if you are not interested in making mulch.
About safety - is one method safer than the other?
Any other thoughts about what is better to chip or burn?

As you can tell, I am clueless about this, but I need to do something about 20 acres of hickory and oak trees that is a mess.

There are many good responses on the thread but nobody has mentioned species.

I have may locust and hedge trees. I do not chip those, when the chipper graps them and they start moving, it's like being on the wrong end of a chain saw. I ended up bleeding from my head, both arms and belly the last time I tried chipping that kind of wood.

Because I have to pile and burn a portion of the limbs I cut, I usually end up buring it all. I have a grapple so it is pretty easy to just make a pile where I'm working and then come back and get it when I'm ready to burn.

I do use the chipper for making mulch. I cut and chip cedar trees for termite resistent mulch for around the house.
 
   / Chip or burn wood? #19  
I need the mulch; so I chip. Been doing so for years and graduating up in size of equipment.

Kinda fun when you do it naked (with proper eye and ear shields).

Ralph
 
   / Chip or burn wood? #20  
I both chip and burn when I can get a permit in the summer months. In my woods, I chip smaller branches from felling trees and use the chips to pave the paths.

Around the house, I chip small hardwood as well as pine and hemlock for garden mulch. I make a big pile and add grass clippings in layers, sawdust from my dust collector, chopped leaves in the fall and then wood ashes from my wood furnace in the winter. I mix it all up with kitchen compost and coffee grounds that we collect year round and turn it over with the bucket. In the spring I till this mixture in the vegetable gardens.

We still have a burn pile with the little stuff too small to chip as well as weeds with seeds, and large non-firewood logs like pine. When we can get a permit, usually once a year, we burn it. My neighbors join us and drag their stuff over when the see we are burning.

btw - I have a DR rapid feed PTO chipper that WILL chip 4-1/2" green no problem. I used to have a DR 18HP tow behind before I bought the BX24 and that DR also did a great job. But the rapid feed pulls in the branches better and also has a larger intake hopper. They're both a great product for the homeowner with a little acreage.
 
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