Chisel Plow

[clemsonfor]

Im thinking about buying this plow. The guy says its a ford. It measures 5-6 feet or so in width and has 5 teeth. The middle tooth is missing its spring. What do yall think its worth or should i pay for it. He said its heavy and we wont pick it up to put it in the truck, he will use his loader. I asked you think it weighs 400lbs he said at least or around there.

 

[clemsonfor]

Here is 2 more

 

[sweettractors]

It is what is left of a Field Cultivator. Here is what a Chisel Plow looks like. Ken Sweet

 

[clemsonfor]

I'm thinking this is a spring tooth harrow. Yours looks more like what i though a cultivator looks like. S-bend teeth with no springs. This i thought is what everyone calls a spring tooth harrow, or a spike tooth harrow or a chisel plow.

 

[clemsonfor]

It is what is left of a Field Cultivator. Here is what a Chisel Plow looks like. Ken Sweet

I went to your website and you list a 610 cultivator and a 623 chisel plow, both of them look like cultivators to me?

 

[MMagis]

I'm thinking this is a spring tooth harrow. Yours looks more like what i though a cultivator looks like. S-bend teeth with no springs. This i thought is what everyone calls a spring tooth harrow, or a spike tooth harrow or a chisel plow.

You just listed three very different things. A spring tooth harrow and cultivator are basically the same thing. What you have shown I would call a cultivator. It's not a chisel plow, they do very different things.

 

[maybar]

This is a pic of an original drag spring tooth. The teeth themselves were the spring and made of spring steel. When more land was acquired to farm it was found to be aggravating to move one more than just across the road. For a short period spring tooth trailers were built of pipe and usually right on the farm. To load it the tractor was driven across the trailer pulling the spring tooth up on it. That didn't last too long as folding sections were then factory built with wheels. With that advent the spring tooth became more of a cultivator.

 

[clemsonfor]

live n learn, i thought they were interchangable? So anyway do you think the thing in my pics will tear up ground that has field grass on it here in the south. This field has not been disked in 5 years and the disk just rides on top. I hate to spend the money on this and the teeth just fold back.

 

[sweettractors]

live n learn, i thought they were interchangable? So anyway do you think the thing in my pics will tear up ground that has field grass on it here in the south. This field has not been disked in 5 years and the disk just rides on top. I hate to spend the money on this and the teeth just fold back.

If they are coil spring loaded and the anchor pins are wore, they will want to pop off in heavy penetration. If you can buy it for $50, you can't go wrong. You can always weld the shanks solid. Ken Sweet

 

[texasjohn]

The shaft of a chisel plow is far, far stronger, thicker than that of a cultivator when you see it in person.... in a photo, the two might look similar, but in reality they are quite different.

If a field is in grass undisturbed for years, I'd certainly go with a chisel plow. It will take several passes at different angles, then you can go over it with a disk with success, after some of the grass deteriorates.

 

[clemsonfor]

Price is more like $150. $50 is about a scrap price for it. Heavy penetration is fine if it springs over but from the pics this thing looks pretty ridgid.

 

[kebo]

clemsonfor, can I make the assumption you are a tater fan????????

 

[clemsonfor]

What????

Does this have something to do with football?

 

[rambler]

Price is more like $150. $50 is about a scrap price for it. Heavy penetration is fine if it springs over but from the pics this thing looks pretty ridgid.

It is one of those 'in between' contraptions. down south it might be called a chisel plow, but up here in the north it is just a heavy field cultivator.

Broken spring, price them - if you can still get them? You might be surprised what it costs.

The sweeps - the replaceable shovels on it - all look to be worn out on the one side, and I only saw one that has a good side left. Those will run $10 or so per shank with new bolts to replace, & you do need to replace those worn out ones.

Looks like it sat a while in the grove. Obviously the owner didn't think it was work a lot....

I'd be closer to the $50 than the $150 in my offer. Seems it need a lot. I bought something like it for $300; but it had good almost new shovels, and all springs were good.

You'll be over $300 and a lot of time getting the old bolts off....

It'll rip up grass in sandy soil. It would be a several pass, long task to do so in heavy clay soil like I have. That's the big varriable -what your soils are like.

I'm not impressed by the thing for the price, as you can tell.

--->Paul

 

[clemsonfor]

OK i checked. We all can see one point has another side, but i prolly will buy 5 to have an extra.

*Points 5/8 thick $3.49/piece x 5 = ~$17.50
*Bolts, i figure i can buy all i need at the store for $10 ( i have boght a few bolts at my local carquest so i have an idea of price)
*Spring (hard since i dont have it and not seeing the whole supply at TSC) but at agrisupply there is some for $9 and some for $30? unknown?

So even figuring $30 for a spring and $20 for new points and 10 for bolts thats $60. Glad were looking at it this way, thanks for pointing out the obvious which i saw but did not price yet.

 

[kebo]

What????

Does this have something to do with football?

Yep!! IF you ever frequent Tiger or Gamecock Illustrated forums, you will learn that Tiger fans are called taters, and Gamecock fans are called coots. It's all in fun, but was just wondering if you were big tiger fan is all.

 

[DanD78]

If you are wanting to plow up sod a mowboard plow would do much better or mow it short and kill it off with Round up then chisle plow. Then disc it to death. You will fight clumps of sod until they break up or rot.

Dan

 

[deere755]

It is what is left of a Field Cultivator. Here is what a Chisel Plow looks like. Ken Sweet

Ken what HP does it take to pull the chisel plow in your photo and if you don't mind send me a PM on price. Thanks Deere 755

 

[sweettractors]

Ken what HP does it take to pull the chisel plow in your photo and if you don't mind send me a PM on price. Thanks Deere 755

Probably around 40-50 with 2 wheel drive tractor could handle 5 in most conditions. I have a 4 shank chisel (shown below) also the same $695 price as the 5 shown earlier. Of course the 4 would take even less and both have removable shanks to match tractor size and field conditions. Ken Sweet

 

[clemsonfor]

Probably around 40-50 with 2 wheel drive tractor could handle 5 in most conditions. I have a 4 shank chisel (shown below) also the same $695 price as the 5 shown earlier. Of course the 4 would take even less and both have removable shanks to match tractor size and field conditions. Ken Sweet

This is what i read on an older post, that it takes 15hp per shank, that would mean this 5 shank would take 75hp. This plow im looking at is from the middle to late 50's . How many 75 hp tractors existed back then and who had them? In the 50's my great granddad was proably still using a mule back then.

This dosent seem to make sense to me, i can pull my box blade with the 4 rippers lowered as deep as the dirt will allow them to go (BB tilted foward to get them deeper) and my yanmar 24hp will pull it all day long, i even busted the far tine through my asphault, be it thin asphault but still, as i was ripping the edge of the drive for my wife.

The way i see those rippers on your true "chisel plow" the only difference is the length. I agree, i will not burry them 10" and pull them but on a similar field to mine my bb without weight would only go 4-6''s the ground was so hard.