Choosing a tow vehicle

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A couple of things that may help you zone in your requirements.

How many people do you need to transport when you are towing? Is you and a passenger enough? Will you be transporting children? Will you want to transport a crew of adults. The extended cab trucks with the baby back seat are not bad for kids but murder on adults. A modern standard cab is required to have air bag disable on the passenger seat so you can transport children in the front seat.

How important is tight quarters manuverability? A short bed half ton will get into just about anywhere that a car will. I can not get my long bed crew cab through many drive throughs. I have to park quite a ways away from any store and take up two parking spaces. Manuvering in tight driveways is impossible.

Do you own the trailer(s) yet? The reason I ask is that gooseneck trailers are supposed to be a LOT easier to manuver, but their pin weight is often greater than a ball hitch's ball weight. 20% of 8000 pounds is 1600 pounds which is right at the limit of what you can put on the pin of a 3/4 ton gooseneck. I am no expert but don't know of many ball hitches rated at 1600 pound ball weight.

A larger truck means you will be pushed around a lot less which means better control. A larger truck means less manuverability in town and higher fuel costs.

I went from a s10 to a f350 long bed crew cab. I am thinking that for my needs a better solution would have been a short bed pickup with a goosneck trailer. Would make the truck easier to drive and would have greater cargo capacity.

Think carefully before you pick up extras like diesel motor, 4wd, crew cab.. All F350's have very similar (within a hundred pounds) GVWR. 9900 pounds in my case, a 1991 model. A standard bed, standard cab with gas motor has a 9900 GVWR on a 6000 pound curb weight truck. That's close to 2 tons of cargo capacity. A long bed, crew cab, 4wd diesel F350 weighs in at 7500 curb weight.

Finally, as has been said. The extra coolers on transmission and engine oil are not optional. I would not consider oversize brakes optional either.
 
   / Choosing a tow vehicle #12  
I would go with the 3/4 ton. Once you get a tow rig you may find yourself towing more often than you thought. The heavier truck will hold up better over time. I agree with many of the other points already rasied before. Bigger brakes and towing capacity are two major things to consider.

Though the best piece of equipment is the one we carry on our shoulders. Use you head and take you time. You are responsible for you and your load and other drivers on the road. Good luck with your choice.
 
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I agree at least a 3/4 ton brand of your choice. You could tow with a 1/2 ton but stopping is much harder especially when some bozo cuts you off and makes you stop before you were planning on it.
 
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Almost forgot when towing livestock they dont like to stand still and in a undersized truck could make you trip very interesting. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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I pull a trailer quite often. It is a box trailer that measures 36 feet total length. It weighs in just over 8,000 pound when loaded. I tried pulling with my 1991 1/2 ton Chevy 4X4 when I first started. It didn't work very well. It was kinda woobly, and had load bearing hitch also. The first trip wasn't too bad on flat ground. Second trip was into Kentucky where the hills took its toll. Sitting on the side of the road waiting for the transmission to cool after it puked out fluid all over the exhaust was not fun. So I did some trading and bought a 1983 Chevy 3/4 ton 4 door long bed, single back wheel. What a difference that made. Night and day. Used that truck for a couple years. Attached a pic. Couple months ago I found a deal on a bigger truck. 1996 Chevy 3500 ext cab dually 4X4 with 454 and auto. Again, night and day difference. With this truck, driving is a dream. No sway, stops great ect.
Just my .02 cents.

P.S. Trailer in background.
 

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   / Choosing a tow vehicle #16  
I've towed about 8000 pound trailer for years with a 1/2 ton that had a 454 in it. I thought it was fine until I actually bought a truck that was more suited for the job. I now have a Dodge 1 ton 4X4 dually with a rather modified Cummins and now, due to the engine mods, a highly modified transmission. If you don't "turn up" the Cummins, the transmissions would be fine. Anyway, I thought it was "normal" for the automatic transmission in my 454 to downshift on each hill. Sometimes it did it several times on the same hill when cruise was on.
With the Cummins diesel, even before I started modifying it, it never downshifted on the interstate when towing even the heaviest loads. With my tractor, loader and rear implement, on my trailer, the whole trailer weighs in at about 12,000 pounds. I can easily tow it over 100 mph; not that that is recommended. My point is that it does not strain the truck at all to tow it, it doesn't pull me all over the road, and with the trailer brakes, I have no problem stopping it.
After using a diesel tow vehicle, I could never go back to a gas engine tow vehicle again. The difference is unbelievable, especially if you ever tow on an interstate.
This thread caught my eye, because I bought my truck from a guy in Texas several years ago who used it to pull "show" cows. I didn't know there was such things. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
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To me a vehicle's towing rating is only part of the equation. I've got a 2000 3/4 ton Chevy crew cab that I pull a 29' all steel goose-neck horse trailer with. I wish I had a larger displacement engine. I'm old school hot rod and believe there is no substitute for cubic inches. To me.... a high hp small block under heavy towing load is just asking for trouble (is there an 18 wheeler with a gas engine?). It has a 350 and to me it does'nt have enough grunt... and I often wish I had gotten the 454. I would love to get a diesel... but I've only got another year to pay-off... can't wait to go without those payments.
 
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When it comes to towing....there's no substitute for torque. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I'm suprised that nobody came up with the obvious solution. My friends and neighbors figured it out a long time ago. Since you figure on towing 15 times a year or so just make friends with someone with a large truck and borrow or rent it when you need it. Being that nobody in their right mind will let someone else have control of their vehicle it will come with a driver, too. That gives you an extra hand for loading and tie down. If they own a trailer you can really save. That way you can drive a little weenie car and save on fuel and wear and tear. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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