Chryslers grandson wants to save the brand

[Renze]

Apparently Chrysler is coming with a new Voyager on sale for this year in North America. In Europe i havent seen it listed on national websites though...

https://www.chrysler.com/voyager.html

The Voyager made Chrysler a name in Europe. The Neon just didnt have it compared to a Korean, and the Renault Espace was even less reliable than the Voyager. The Voyager was also cheaper because of the huge production numbers for the home market... Maybe the Dollar exchange rate was cheaper in the 90s too ?

Anyways, Fiat Chryslers last attempt of selling the Voyager as Lancia in Europe, just didnt work, people expect a fancy design from an Italian brand, while the Voyager became a household name for a minivan...

 

[ruffdog]

It seems the Voyager is just another name for the Pacifica with cheaper wheels etc. and is still $40k+.

 

[Renze]

Yeah i saw its only a marginal price difference of 2 to 3 grand.

 

[WinterDeere]

I hope to never reach a point in life where I actually know or care about the price of any minivan.

 

[Hay Dude]

I hope to never reach a point in life where I actually know or care about the price of any minivan.

Had one. I was a victim of a Ford Windstar.
Practical as all hell, especially with active kids, but I’m glad that 4 year period of ownership has passed.
Good thing I was built back then, or I would have taken abuse when seen driving it.

 

[ruffdog]

Yeah i saw its only a marginal price difference of 2 to 3 grand.

The Voyager and Jeep Grand Wagoneer are sitting on lots with 250+++ day supplies. If the brand is to be saved, they better figure it out soon.

Voyager and Grand Wagoneer L Top Slow-Selling List for 2025

 

[ruffdog]

It has been announced that Stellantis will open the closed Belvidere IL plant to build the next gen Dodge Durango.

Stellantis to reopen Belvidere plant by 2027, company announces

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2027-dodge-durango-ev-gas-3-row-suv-future-cars/

 

[Hay Dude]

It has been announced that Stellantis will open the closed Belvidere IL plant to build the next gen Dodge Durango.

Stellantis to reopen Belvidere plant by 2027, company announces

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2027-dodge-durango-ev-gas-3-row-suv-future-cars/

Wonder why THAT happened?

 

[LouNY]

One mini van and two full sized Ford F200 window vans, one "12" and one "15" passenger. Both set up for 9 or 12 passenger with 460's under the hoods.

 

[WinterDeere]

Had one. I was a victim of a Ford Windstar.
Practical as all hell, especially with active kids, but I’m glad that 4 year period of ownership has passed.

Full disclosure, my parents had a Ford Aerostar in the mid-1980's, even worse than the Windstar! As a kid, I loved having the captain's chairs and back-seat radio controls, instead of sharing a bench seat or the "way back" in mom's prior Ford LTD wagon. I think I took my driving test in that thing, and drove it the first few months until my sister and I could save up enough to share on the price of something with a bit more teen cred.