CK Series Remote Kit CKA111 Installation Tips

[ncoonen]

I just finished installing the CKA111 dual rear remote kit on my 2020 Kioti CK3510H and want to put down a few notes to help the next guy who tackles this kit. It isn't a difficult installation but it is tricky in spots and is made much more challenging by the poor instructions that come with the kit. I found the parts in the kit to be top quality and well labeled and everything fit where it was supposed to go. Some of these things may seem obvious but they weren't to me, an experienced mechanic but new to hydraulic control systems. Here goes:

1. I have read that people have installed the rear remotes without removing the right rear tire. I started with that tire on but soon removed it in order to better visualize pipe routing and to see the loader valve connections. If you understand the routing and have small hands, you *might* be able to get through the job with that tire in place. Other things that I removed (not in the instructions) include: loader control stick, knob for 3-point control, plastic trim piece around the 3-point control that includes the cup holder.
2. The remote valve block is plumbed between the tractor hydraulic port and the loader valve. I expected it to be installed to the loader valve power beyond so I was initially confused by the instructions which do not mention this fact.
3. The exploded parts diagram and parts list of the instructions are by far the most useful pages. I found the part numbers there to be accurate which is not true in the "step by step" instructions.
4. Do not bolt down the remote valve body until you have figured out and finger tighten the connections for the hydraulic pressure feed, the power beyond (to the loader valve), and the drain line. These three connections are the most difficult to manage. Note that the drain line connection will vary based on the serial number of your tractor. My 2020 CK3510H fell into the "early production" requiring a slightly more complex connection. Be sure to figure this out early and plan your steps accordingly.
5. Attach the quick connects to the two brackets securely before mounting the brackets to your tractor's top link bracket. Leave the mounting bolts slightly loose until you have the pipes from the valve body in place and at least finger tight. I was impressed by the precision of these very rigid pipes in that they all fit were they should and only needed a little wiggling to get seated correctly.

All in all, now that I have done one install, the next would be much easier and go much faster in the unlikely event that I do this again. Do yourself a favor and don't get too confused by the "step by step" instructions provided - they are truly awful, have errors, and are incomplete at best. My high level order of installation goes like this:

1. Remove the seat, the right rear tire, and other small bits mentioned above.
2. Lay out the parts on a table and figure out which valve drain strategy you need to install based on your VIN.
3. Connect the remote valve input pipe to the tractor port, the power beyond pipe from the new valve to the loader valve, and the new valve drain line where it must go.
4. Bolt down the valve and be sure the three lines from the previous step are securely connected. Fixing a leak on any of these three will be difficult later on.
5. Loosely attach the quick connects to your tractor and run the four pipes from the valve body. Tighten all lines, then tighten the QC brackets.
6. Install all control levers, handles, trim piece, seat, right rear tire.
7. Check for leaks and have a well deserved frosty malt beverage.

I hope someone finds this helpful. I am glad I did this job myself as I learned a lot about how the tractor's hydraulic system works and how it is plumbed.

...ned.

 

[ncoonen]

Addendum: I just added a hydraulic top link and hose kit from Agristore.com. The setup below seems just right for my CK3510.

Category 1 Hydraulic Top Link 18 1/8" - 26 3/8" × 1 $214.99​ Hydraulic Hose Kit with 1/2" Valve Type Couplers × 1 $55.00​

 

[sailorman3]

I just finished installing the CKA111 dual rear remote kit on my 2020 Kioti CK3510H and want to put down a few notes to help the next guy who tackles this kit. It isn't a difficult installation but it is tricky in spots and is made much more challenging by the poor instructions that come with the kit. I found the parts in the kit to be top quality and well labeled and everything fit where it was supposed to go. Some of these things may seem obvious but they weren't to me, an experienced mechanic but new to hydraulic control systems. Here goes:

1. I have read that people have installed the rear remotes without removing the right rear tire. I started with that tire on but soon removed it in order to better visualize pipe routing and to see the loader valve connections. If you understand the routing and have small hands, you *might* be able to get through the job with that tire in place. Other things that I removed (not in the instructions) include: loader control stick, knob for 3-point control, plastic trim piece around the 3-point control that includes the cup holder.
2. The remote valve block is plumbed between the tractor hydraulic port and the loader valve. I expected it to be installed to the loader valve power beyond so I was initially confused by the instructions which do not mention this fact.
3. The exploded parts diagram and parts list of the instructions are by far the most useful pages. I found the part numbers there to be accurate which is not true in the "step by step" instructions.
4. Do not bolt down the remote valve body until you have figured out and finger tighten the connections for the hydraulic pressure feed, the power beyond (to the loader valve), and the drain line. These three connections are the most difficult to manage. Note that the drain line connection will vary based on the serial number of your tractor. My 2020 CK3510H fell into the "early production" requiring a slightly more complex connection. Be sure to figure this out early and plan your steps accordingly.
5. Attach the quick connects to the two brackets securely before mounting the brackets to your tractor's top link bracket. Leave the mounting bolts slightly loose until you have the pipes from the valve body in place and at least finger tight. I was impressed by the precision of these very rigid pipes in that they all fit were they should and only needed a little wiggling to get seated correctly.

All in all, now that I have done one install, the next would be much easier and go much faster in the unlikely event that I do this again. Do yourself a favor and don't get too confused by the "step by step" instructions provided - they are truly awful, have errors, and are incomplete at best. My high level order of installation goes like this:

1. Remove the seat, the right rear tire, and other small bits mentioned above.
2. Lay out the parts on a table and figure out which valve drain strategy you need to install based on your VIN.
3. Connect the remote valve input pipe to the tractor port, the power beyond pipe from the new valve to the loader valve, and the new valve drain line where it must go.
4. Bolt down the valve and be sure the three lines from the previous step are securely connected. Fixing a leak on any of these three will be difficult later on.
5. Loosely attach the quick connects to your tractor and run the four pipes from the valve body. Tighten all lines, then tighten the QC brackets.
6. Install all control levers, handles, trim piece, seat, right rear tire.
7. Check for leaks and have a well deserved frosty malt beverage.

I hope someone finds this helpful. I am glad I did this job myself as I learned a lot about how the tractor's hydraulic system works and how it is plumbed.

...ned.

Is this the kit from Kioti? I’m getting the same tractor next week with the backhoe already added. It’s my understanding that there is only one rear kit available for those tractors so I’m trying to figure out if it will have duel remotes. The salesman has been no help to me at all. Thanks.

 

[ncoonen]

Is this the kit from Kioti? I’m getting the same tractor next week with the backhoe already added. It’s my understanding that there is only one rear kit available for those tractors so I’m trying to figure out if it will have duel remotes. The salesman has been no help to me at all. Thanks.

Yes, it is about kit CKA111 to add two rear remotes to a CKxx10 series tractor. My understanding is that the Kioti backhoes for CKs use a separate hydraulic feed that is separate from the rear remotes and is not valve controlled. I don't have a backhoe so I don't have first hand experience to draw from. You should be able to tell right away once you have your tractor and can refer to the backhoe manual and check for the two levers on the right of the seat just behind the 3-point control.

 

[larry james]

I just finished installing the CKA111 dual rear remote kit on my 2020 Kioti CK3510H and want to put down a few notes to help the next guy who tackles this kit. It isn't a difficult installation but it is tricky in spots and is made much more challenging by the poor instructions that come with the kit. I found the parts in the kit to be top quality and well labeled and everything fit where it was supposed to go. Some of these things may seem obvious but they weren't to me, an experienced mechanic but new to hydraulic control systems. Here goes:

1. I have read that people have installed the rear remotes without removing the right rear tire. I started with that tire on but soon removed it in order to better visualize pipe routing and to see the loader valve connections. If you understand the routing and have small hands, you *might* be able to get through the job with that tire in place. Other things that I removed (not in the instructions) include: loader control stick, knob for 3-point control, plastic trim piece around the 3-point control that includes the cup holder.
2. The remote valve block is plumbed between the tractor hydraulic port and the loader valve. I expected it to be installed to the loader valve power beyond so I was initially confused by the instructions which do not mention this fact.
3. The exploded parts diagram and parts list of the instructions are by far the most useful pages. I found the part numbers there to be accurate which is not true in the "step by step" instructions.
4. Do not bolt down the remote valve body until you have figured out and finger tighten the connections for the hydraulic pressure feed, the power beyond (to the loader valve), and the drain line. These three connections are the most difficult to manage. Note that the drain line connection will vary based on the serial number of your tractor. My 2020 CK3510H fell into the "early production" requiring a slightly more complex connection. Be sure to figure this out early and plan your steps accordingly.
5. Attach the quick connects to the two brackets securely before mounting the brackets to your tractor's top link bracket. Leave the mounting bolts slightly loose until you have the pipes from the valve body in place and at least finger tight. I was impressed by the precision of these very rigid pipes in that they all fit were they should and only needed a little wiggling to get seated correctly.

All in all, now that I have done one install, the next would be much easier and go much faster in the unlikely event that I do this again. Do yourself a favor and don't get too confused by the "step by step" instructions provided - they are truly awful, have errors, and are incomplete at best. My high level order of installation goes like this:

1. Remove the seat, the right rear tire, and other small bits mentioned above.
2. Lay out the parts on a table and figure out which valve drain strategy you need to install based on your VIN.
3. Connect the remote valve input pipe to the tractor port, the power beyond pipe from the new valve to the loader valve, and the new valve drain line where it must go.
4. Bolt down the valve and be sure the three lines from the previous step are securely connected. Fixing a leak on any of these three will be difficult later on.
5. Loosely attach the quick connects to your tractor and run the four pipes from the valve body. Tighten all lines, then tighten the QC brackets.
6. Install all control levers, handles, trim piece, seat, right rear tire.
7. Check for leaks and have a well deserved frosty malt beverage.

I hope someone finds this helpful. I am glad I did this job myself as I learned a lot about how the tractor's hydraulic system works and how it is plumbed.

...ned.

hello,
Thank you for this informative bit. any chance you took pictures during install?
I have a 2009 bobcat ct230 same as a kioti ck30 tractor looking to add this kit if it will work. No one seems to know.
Thank you in advance
larry j.
6024992355

 

[Threepoint]

hello,
Thank you for this informative bit. any chance you took pictures during install?
I have a 2009 bobcat ct230 same as a kioti ck30 tractor looking to add this kit if it will work. No one seems to know.
Thank you in advance
larry j.

Larry, welcome to TBN! Rather than include your phone number, I recommend you delete it (as I have done in my quote of your post) and simply request that the original poster "PM" (private message) you to contact you. You can edit your posts for a short while, after which time you'd need to contact the administrator for help doing it.

 

[koshari]

hello,
Thank you for this informative bit. any chance you took pictures during install?
I have a 2009 bobcat ct230 same as a kioti ck30 tractor looking to add this kit if it will work. No one seems to know.
Thank you in advance
larry j.
6024992355

you want the previous generation ck remote valve, notice the porting is compatable with your pic,

 

[Smittyb]

you want the previous generation ck remote valve, notice the porting is compatable with your pic,

View attachment 788474

Does anyone know if this "previous generation" remote valve for the CK is still available anywhere?

 

[koshari]

Does anyone know if this "previous generation" remote valve for the CK is still available anywhere?

they are rare but occasionally the odd NOS one comes up, you may not be able to be fussy if you want detent or not,

the following is an NX series valve and the porting looks the same however i wouldnt be surprised if you could make it work. but no guarantees of course. the main issue is the outlets come out the opposite side of the body and fitting could be troublesome.