ck20hst PTO noise?

[RexB]

Thanks for this thread, I'm hooking up a PHD600 (that the dealer threw in on the deal) pretty soon. Now I know :~)

 

[glmf]

I always use the clutch to disengage. Sometimes I lower the RPM's and sometimes I don't. Never heard anything odd with a rear finish mower, flail or rotary mower. CK30HST

Believe me, there is no mistaking the sound I am talking about, its very noticeable,,,

 

[williekioti]

I have a gear and, like you, always used the clutch to disengage. That is, until I read the postings here. It works fine disengaging without the clutch.

When I use my auger, I run it at extremely low RPMs and clear often. I also have a 36" pipe wrench at the ready when (not if) it gets stuck. It's a great little tool but oft times scary. I have a lot of respect for it and exercise a lot of caution using it.

Yeah, I do the same. I run the PHD between 1500-1700 rpm usually and clear it often. But when mine gets stuck it's not the "small" rocks banging around in the hole, they're usually the size of an engine block, bigger or ledge rock. :O I try to be careful with it because it's not mine, borrowed and I don't want to "buy" it broken. They are pretty scary things to use for sure. Oh, and always have plenty of shear bolts in the toolbox. Don't have the pipe wrench(that big) but it's great suggestion, sounds like I need one. I buried the auger once and thought I was going to have to leave it planted for all eternity.

 

[Patches]

Hi guys;I'm new to the forum, but have read almost every thread reference Kioti's and found them interesting and informative.I've noticed most of the noise concerns have come from "ck" owners but my 3054xs TLB has a similar loud "rattling" when fully warmed and moving in reverse. I mentioned it to my dealership when the unit was there for some of it's "many"warranty visits, but he said he didn't hear it,which is possible if the unit was not fully warmed.The noise stops when the clutch is fully depressed, which indicates to me the noise is caused by something in the pto train,and while it has caused no problems???? it really irritates me

 

[kentrodngun]

Patches, I'm an LK3054 owner and if you read my earlier post in this thread it may give some insight into what the noise might be. Speaking for myself, finding the true neutral position for the PTO is very difficult.

 

[Patches]

Patches, I'm an LK3054 owner and if you read my earlier post in this thread it may give some insight into what the noise might be. Speaking for myself, finding the true neutral position for the PTO is very difficult.

I sincerely hope this is not the case in my unit as it is out of warranty and I"ve no desire to tear into it. I'll try a little searching with the selector to "maybe" find a more neutral position. I seldom use the pto;only when using my 3pt-pto chipper, and it only makes the noise when moving in reverse;but does that wheather the pto is in use or not and with the bh on the machine. Thanks for the heads-up, and I had read yor earlier post.

 

[malk315]

I can confirm that my mid-pto on my CK-20 HST does the same thing you guys are experiencing regarding the "clicking". I always bring the RPMS down to like 1500 or so and typically have my foot ready to clutch as it's ramping down the RPMS so it's smooth and not putting any load on the engine (i.e. I clutch just before the engine will want to drive the output shaft again). My thinking is that it's just easier on everything if I clutch at the lower RPMs. I do get the clicking noise described and just figured it was the overrun protection.

The last time I cut, I experimented and like the other guys mention, if I just pull the RPMs down in preparation for disengaging the mid pto and instead of clutching just pull the lever back, there's no click and the deck spins down very smoothly. On another test I pulled the RPMs down, clutched for a moment to get the ticking going, and then pulled the lever back while keeping the clutch in and the ticking stopped and the deck continued to spin down smoother and for a longer period of time. So the clicking certainly is inducing some drag on spin down. The lever is very easy to disengage -- in fact when I clutch to engage it, sometimes I get resistance from the lever and let the clutch out for a moment and re-clutch thinking it will allow an easier mesh. Usually after a couple tries it goes in nice. I then let the clutch out nice and slow to baby it into motion being ready to re-clutch if for some odd reason a blade were to hit something or the shaft isn't right. I've had no issues and very much like my mowing setup. I'm pretty fussy about my lawn (looks like a golf course) and my deck does a great job.