It even came to rest on the hand rails, just like I planned it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I need to spring for some more 1.75 tubing, I want to add at least one more bar front to rear. Then some light mounts, maybe a radio, plasma TV and Bose sound system. OK, I lied about the TV and Bose. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif