Loader CK3510 Loader joystick problem

dmiller0538 · Sep 4, 2017

Anyone else with a CK3510 or 4010 have issues with controlling their loader? Using the bucket is not too bad, but while using a set of pallet forks it's very touchy when lowering..... like raising up level (up and roll forward simutaneous) works decent... BUT going down level (curl back & down) is horrible.... If you aren't careful when you first start to go down and curl back at the same time It dumps forward very fast (like end of forks may drop a foot or 2) depending on weight but then recovers as you go farther into the position on the valve. It's very easy to dump a load unexpectedly if you aren't ready for it... The dealer has been out a couple times to check it out and says its a known problem on the ck10 series loader valves but that Kioti hasn't issued a recall or bulletin for it.. Has anybody figured out a fix for this or have any clue what might fix it? It's like there's a load check not working correctly

ArXane · Oct 1, 2017

Did you ever get this resolved? I also experience this with my forks.

Highgear · Oct 3, 2017

This problem goes back to 2004 . I have a 04 CK30 that when I use the loader forks with weight I have to be extra cautious .

gorphen66 · Oct 3, 2017

I had the 2015 Ck35hst, and never notice this issue with my pallet forks. I just bought a ck3510hst last week but havent taken possession yet. I hope I dont have this issue.

Dickster · Oct 5, 2017

Not sure of this setup but I have a CK2510 with the same type of response. I find that if I rest my hand beside my knee/ thigh while using the joystick, I am better able to slowly things down and have more control. Not a fix but an operator quirk is all.

dmiller0538 · Oct 6, 2017

ArXane said:
Did you ever get this resolved? I also experience this with my forks.

Unfortunately no. One of their techs said it may be something as simple as a shim either to thick or too thin on one of the spools but wasn't sure

dmiller0538 · Oct 6, 2017

Dickster said:
Not sure of this setup but I have a CK2510 with the same type of response. I find that if I rest my hand beside my knee/ thigh while using the joystick, I am better able to slowly things down and have more control. Not a fix but an operator quirk is all.

Same here..... Good thing is that the joystick is located where you can control it easier like you said by resting against your leg.... if it was mounted up on the loader frame I think I would had quite a few dumped loads by now :thumbdown:. I can deal with the touchyness of the valve, I just wish it didn't have that short dump spurt when trying to lower and curl back

dmiller0538 · Oct 6, 2017

gorphen66 said:
I had the 2015 Ck35hst, and never notice this issue with my pallet forks. I just bought a ck3510hst last week but havent taken possession yet. I hope I dont have this issue.

Congrats on your purchase! Even with the minor loader issue, I think you'll love it...... Pretty tough machine

weestrommer · Nov 19, 2017

dmiller0538 said:
Anyone else with a CK3510 or 4010 have issues with controlling their loader? Using the bucket is not too bad, but while using a set of pallet forks it's very touchy when lowering..... like raising up level (up and roll forward simutaneous) works decent... BUT going down level (curl back & down) is horrible.... If you aren't careful when you first start to go down and curl back at the same time It dumps forward very fast (like end of forks may drop a foot or 2) depending on weight but then recovers as you go farther into the position on the valve. It's very easy to dump a load unexpectedly if you aren't ready for it... The dealer has been out a couple times to check it out and says its a known problem on the ck10 series loader valves but that Kioti hasn't issued a recall or bulletin for it.. Has anybody figured out a fix for this or have any clue what might fix it? It's like there's a load check not working correctly

I have a CK2510 HST and have a similar problem. What happens is that the bucket will fold under the weight of the loader arms. After you dump the load in the bucket and lower the loader arms. Then go to back drag the fill the bucket will go flat or fold on its own. No hydraulic pressure on the bucket to hold it. As soon as you move the spool valve for the bucket the hydraulic pressure will hold the bucket in its place. I was told from the kioti dealer that this a defect that all the CK model line have. When this happens you can actually get off the tractor and move the bucket up and down by lifting it with your hands.