Clear cutting half arsed, why?

[Hay Dude]

Then the question becomes if it costing 20k to clear it up, what was the profit for the timber?

I don't know, but I would think the timber sale would exceed the clearing up process?

Not if it’s pine, or gnarly wood. Other woods don’t bring much money. And remember, that’s IF you can find a buyer. Also, how much of it can you sell? Might just be a little bit at a time. Then the pile must be stacked & maintained. Most of the time, it’s not as easy as selling it by making a phone call. I have straight Cherry logs for sale right now for dirt cheap and no takers.

Again, never "cleared" a buttload of trees off any property, but I would think if the known goal was to clear the land after the removal of the timber, it would be easier while you're actually clearing the timber and not after the fact. Don't know what I'm talking about, thus the stupid questions.

Again, you're property, you have the right to with it what you want, I understand that.

Maybe the intention is to let the wood set a while, then burn. Maybe there’s a wood pulp company that wants it, but hasn’t gotten there to get it yet.

Your best bet is to go talk to the owner and ask. Maybe that’ll calm you down and give you some assurance.

 

[jyoutz]

Then the question becomes if it costing 20k to clear it up, what was the profit for the timber?

I don't know, but I would think the timber sale would exceed the clearing up process?

Again, never "cleared" a buttload of trees off any property, but I would think if the known goal was to clear the land after the removal of the timber, it would be easier while you're actually clearing the timber and not after the fact. Don't know what I'm talking about, thus the stupid questions.

Again, you're property, you have the right to with it what you want, I understand that.

Typically timber sale contracts specify that slash treatment (whatever is done) is done by the logger in conjunction with timber removal. They have the appropriate equipment to get this done right and efficiently. There is a slightly reduced stumpage value for the timber to allow for slash treatment service work. But those provisions are what foresters will insert into contracts. If a logger hands a landowner a sale contract to sign, those provisions are frequently omitted.

 

[deezler]

Then the question becomes if it costing 20k to clear it up, what was the profit for the timber?

I don't know, but I would think the timber sale would exceed the clearing up process?

Again, never "cleared" a buttload of trees off any property, but I would think if the known goal was to clear the land ...

My 10 cents says that wasn't the goal. The goal was probably to extract maximum cash from an inherited, or long-owned piece of timbered land, with no care to the effects on nature, future forest quality/management, or especially not what some random dude driving by thinks it looks like.

 

[forgeblast]

It was probably high graded and they took the best and left the worse. Instead of doing a select cut and leaving trees to provide good genetics. Sadly if you do not higher a forester that is what often happens.

 

[oosik]

Robert bring up the option of a double wide and meth lab( post # 27 ). I grin, smile - even chuckle.

Right across the county road from my driveway entrance - a 20 acre parcel was for sale. Initially purchased by three young guys. They proved to be real low life types.

It became a tent city and meth manufacturing facility.

Lo and behold. After six months of this crap - the entire facility burned to the ground. The three "gentlemen" vanished - never to be seen again.

A rather tough way to clear half of a 20 acre parcel.

Ashes to ashes.............

 

[Sigarms]

My 10 cents says that wasn't the goal. The goal was probably to extract maximum cash from an inherited, or long-owned piece of timbered land, with no care to the effects on nature, future forest quality/management, or especially not what some random dude driving by thinks it looks like.

I don't know the story, but to some extent I agree with your assesment.

There is this thing called "checks and balances" that goes back to working a basic budget.

I bleieve I've alluded to this in my past posts.

 

[Sigarms]

It was probably high graded and they took the best and left the worse. Instead of doing a select cut and leaving trees to provide good genetics. Sadly if you do not higher a forester that is what often happens.

That makes sense. Someone comes in, offers you the best bang for the buck on the money you can make on the trees taken down and you run with it.

Although I can be lazy at times, if you're prepared to do something, do it right the first time is something I've always held myself to.

That said, since I have no clue what I'm talking about, perhaps in 15 years after a clear cut, everything will look "fine".

I honestly don't know.

 

[newbury]

While it's ugly the pile will rot down.

Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.
On my 70 acre parcel I'm about the only "eyes beholden".

 

[Sigarms]

Not if it’s pine, or gnarly wood. Other woods don’t bring much money. And remember, that’s IF you can find a buyer. Also, how much of it can you sell? Might just be a little bit at a time. Then the pile must be stacked & maintained. Most of the time, it’s not as easy as selling it by making a phone call. I have straight Cherry logs for sale right now for dirt cheap and no takers.


Maybe the intention is to let the wood set a while, then burn. Maybe there’s a wood pulp company that wants it, but hasn’t gotten there to get it yet.

Your best bet is to go talk to the owner and ask. Maybe that’ll calm you down and give you some assurance.

Your comments make complete sense.

If cut timber doesn't bring in much money, not certain why you'd clear it to begin with.

In complete honesty, dosen't bug me to much, but thought it easier to ask here for guys familiar with this practice. Not certain who owns the land, not worth my time to look up tax records and then find the owner on my end. As mentioned, it's his property, his to do with.

See below. As it turns out this, is a guy interested in cutting some trees down on my property. Generally this is the way I work with people...Reality is if he meets my expectations on clearing out some trees and he keeps the profits and doesn't charge me, for myself, it's a "win win".

Communication is the key IMO

 

[Sigarms]

Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.

You're absolutely right.

5 cars jacked up on cinder blocks rusting out on your front lawn may not look nice to me, but if they're yours on your property and you're fine with it, who really cares?

That said, one could argue one has no money to take care of their issues, but when it comes to owning a butt load of land, if you own it and you need to sell timber to makes ends meet money wise, I'd respectfully argue that sooner or later you'll need to sell some of the land to someone who can afford it.