CNH Global NV, good or bad?

   / CNH Global NV, good or bad? #1  

Joe Bloggs

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What do you think of Case, New Holland and Kubota equipment?
Is it better or worse then other equipment?
In which way?
I'm thinking of buying a "CNH Global NV" excavator, what do you recommend? Should I buy something else entirely?
What exactly should I look for in buying a machine?
Thank you,
Joey
 
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   / CNH Global NV, good or bad? #2  
New Hollands excavators are actually Kolbelco's. They are rather well reguarded. Kubota's machines are somewhat smaller than New Hollands. However in the sizes that they overlap you will find that you get more machine and somewhat better performance from Kubota. We sell both.
 
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Case and New Holland are owned by Fiat, plus a bunch of other companies. But they are the same basic company competeing with each other. I have one of each.

If I was out buying brand new, it would be New Holland without a doubt. Case just doesn't work with you and support there stuff to the same level that I've found at New Holland. It could be my local dealers, but some of the company policies from Case are just silly.

For example, Case will not rebuild hydraulic pumps on there equipment, only new parts. A hydraulic pump on my dozer runs almost $20,000. I took it out and had it rebuilt for $2,000.

My neighbor wanted to buy a brand new backhoe. He wanted 4x4, cab and a 4 way bucket. The salesman at Case gave him a price and told him that was it, take it or leave it. The salesman at New Holland not only beat the price for the Case, but offered an extended warentee, free service and really went the extra mile.

Again, this may be a local issue and Case might be allot better in other areas of the country than here. It's not tha Case isn't as good a tractor, I have no idea, but there is some issues that do exist here.

As for Kubota, it's also hit or miss. My local dealer wasn't very helpful or even concerned with wanting my business. I went there three times to look at tractors and talk to the salemen. Each time I felt like I was wasting there time and they could care less if I bought from them or not. I still wanted a Kubota, but when I talked to some people I saw who had them, they warned me away from the local dealer. One guy drives several hours to a diffferent dealer just to not have to deal with the local one.

Again, that's here. From what I know about Kubota, it's about as good a company and product as you can find. But sometimes, that's not enough. I want really good support and service.

Eddie
 
   / CNH Global NV, good or bad? #5  
The Case Excavators are actually supplied to Case by Sumitomo (well, mot of them-the smaller ones are Kobelco (CX80, etc.)-
 
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plowrup said:
The Case Excavators are actually supplied to Case by Sumitomo (well, mot of them-the smaller ones are Kobelco (CX80, etc.)-

Correct, NewHolland owns 100% US operations of Kobelco. The Kobelco sk80, NH E80, and Case CX80 are the same unit. Thats where it ends though. Anything larger, and they are TOTALLY different units.You will see a slight advantage in the midi class leaning towards NH in operator comforts and finance on the E80 and below. The larger excavator is no comparison, Kobelco hands down.This also applies to the dozer line. The dozers (NH&Case)are built in the same Kobelco plant in Calhoun Ga.

Va Dealer
 
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Are the Sumitomo excavators easy to get parts for? Can I buy parts through Case? I might go look at a S160 next weekend. I need an excavator under 15,600 pounds.
hugs, Brandi
 

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