Coffee scoops and coffee makers

   / Coffee scoops and coffee makers #101  
It might be all the same, for all you know. The actual amount of coffee bean mass in a spoonful or cup can vary quite a bit, depending on grind, bean type, and darkness of roast.


True, with the caveat they all need to get close to 200 - 205F, which most older machines do just fine. if you can put 200F water onto coffee grounds, the rest is dictated by the coffee, water, and filter. The machine itself has very little bearing on the outcome.

Last time I had to buy a new pour over or drip machine ca.2010, I was finding that most American brand machines were no longer hitting those temperatures, with rumor or supposition being it was due to fear over litigation. Thank the McDonald's lawsuit, if you believe that, although there was plenty of temperature data being posted on various coffee forums proving it was indeed true. New buyers at that time were even complaining about the beloved Mr. Coffee, once the golden standard of cheap coffee machines, as their earlier versions legitimately made very good coffee.

The only good choices I was finding at that time were all European (e.g. Technivorm = $$$$) or commercial (e.g. Bunn). I ended up buying a Bunn A10, which was moderately expensive, something like 7x the $35'ish you'd pay for a Mr. Coffee at that time. But these things are made for restaurant use Visit this site, so it hasn't had any issue with the 5000+ pots we've put through it, in the years since. Damn thing might outlive me.
Got a new Keurig that does a pot or single pods. Haven't had a traditional coffee maker in a very l9ng time & not getting the best out of a pot compared to the single pods. How many scoops of ground coffee do you usually use, per cup, on a regular coffee maker?
 
   / Coffee scoops and coffee makers #102  
Got a new Keurig that does a pot or single pods. Haven't had a traditional coffee maker in a very l9ng time & not getting the best out of a pot compared to the single pods. How many scoops of ground coffee do you usually use, per cup, on a regular coffee maker?
Usually 1:15 to 1:17 by weight, for pour-over or drip. I tend to go toward the 1:15 ratio, myself.

Got a food scale? Working by weight is easy, since water weighs 1 oz. per fl. oz. Likewise in metric, water is 1 mL per gram.
 
   / Coffee scoops and coffee makers #104  
For drip coffee, I grind my own beans on the fine side, use 1 tablespoon per 2 cups of water on the maker scale. (Hamilton Beach drip coffee maker) I make 4 cups (per scale) and use 2 tablespoons +/- to taste. Has done me well over the years. The finer grind may be the difference.
 
   / Coffee scoops and coffee makers #105  
A while back I saw someone started a thread on cowboy coffee.

It inspired me to buy this and I will never go back to drip coffee. My parents all used it as a kid but they have not used one in decades.

Coffee from this has a smooth and bold taste that I love. Not bitter and bitey like the Starbucks crap, but bold. It's hard to explain the better quality but you just need to try it.

I use about half a cup coffee for 45oz of RO filtered well water. I perk for 9 minutes after it begins to perk. It also produces scalding hot coffee which I like hot coffee. ☕

And the best part, I think I paid about 25 bucks at Cabela's.
 

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   / Coffee scoops and coffee makers #107  
A while back I saw someone started a thread on cowboy coffee.

It inspired me to buy this and I will never go back to drip coffee. My parents all used it as a kid but they have not used one in decades.

Coffee from this has a smooth and bold taste that I love. Not bitter and bitey like the Starbucks crap, but bold. It's hard to explain the better quality but you just need to try it.

I use about half a cup coffee for 45oz of RO filtered well water. I perk for 9 minutes after it begins to perk. It also produces scalding hot coffee which I like hot coffee. ☕

And the best part, I think I paid about 25 bucks at Cabela's.
Isn't it funny how "old" is becoming "new" again. Who would have thought that the way people have done some things for generations is still the best way.

I guess we've all been in the mode of letting convenience over-ride quality, sometimes.

A French Press also makes a great cup of coffee.

I do like a good rich cup of coffee in the morning. My wife always makes our drip coffee too weak.
 
   / Coffee scoops and coffee makers #108  
I have the Breville "Grind Control" and I have a LOVE / HATE relationship with it.

This is the Grind Control that I have:


I prefer a strong, dark roast, and I drink my coffee black. On the weekends, I hand grind my beans, and use either my AEROPRESS or my French Press, but during the work week, the Grind Control gets the job done.

My LOVE / HATE relationship is based on how much of a PITA it is to use, and keep clean. It has a hopper up on top, where you put the beans. You can use any bean you prefer, and the hopper holds enough for two, maybe three pots, depending on how "strong" you make it. By strong, you select the fill, 1 to 8, and that determines how much coffee is ground up and added into the basket. It has a flip out basket, with a gold colored re-usable coffee "filter", or you can use paper filters. You set the time, and then you can either brew it on demand, or set the automatic timer, to brew the coffee automatically. I set it 15 min before my alarm goes off. Once it activates, you hear the grinder start up, and it grinds the beans, depositing it into the basket. Then, it slow drips water over the grinds. You can set the water temp as well... I have it set at 207 degrees, the same as I use for my French Press or AEROPRESS.

It makes a wonderful cup-o-joe, but here's the HATE part. The grinding action grinds the beans very fine. You have to make sure the basket is dry, or else the little opening where the ground coffee comes through, gets clogged up. I have a weekly routine where I clean it out completely, and it never gives me issues.

I use filtered water, and I'm lucky that my well water is very soft. I may have to descale it once a month or every other month. The "taste" of the coffee is subjective. Is it better as my presses? No. Is it better than a normal drip style? That is where the subjective part comes in. Is it better than a Kureg? OH YES. My "coffee snob" palate won't allow me to drink a K-Cup style coffee... but, I've been known to slum now and then. :)
 
   / Coffee scoops and coffee makers #109  
Hey Darth,

Maybe consider swapping that all-in-one out for a decent inexpensive burr grinder, like the Baratza Encore, and then a separate brewer. The coffee maker is really the least important part of the whole rig, it's just heating and pouring water, the ingredients (beans) and grinder are really what determines flavor and quality, to a much greater degree than the brewer.

I have the Baratza Virtuoso, which is basically the big brother to the Encore, with slightly better materials and (IIRC?) slightly larger burrs. I use it for pour over and French press, pretty much daily for 15 years, and it was a great investment. I also have their Sette 270 for espresso, which has been a little less robust, but also produces excellent grinds directly into a portafilter for espresso.

On brewers: I became a big fan of Bunn for pour-over, when most of the other USA-available brewers stepped down their brew temperature 15-20 years ago. Brewers are about as simple as a lead sinker, but they do need to heat water to 205F'ish, and very few of those you can buy at Walmart today actually do that, thanks to... lawyers. At least as of when I bought my old A10, Bunn hadn't bowed to that stupidity, being mostly in the commercial/restaurant market. Another good brand is Technovorm, but they're stupid expensive (European), and the few models they offered in the USA were too tall to fit under our kitchen cabinets, back when I was buying.

Mr. Coffee was always an excellent cheap brewer, 20+ years ago. Then they followed the rest and stepped down their brew temperature, maybe 15 years ago. I heard that they got so many complaints from their loyal fans, that they may have reverted, and gone back to a higher brew temperature. I haven't confirmed that, but I saw it reported somewhere on another site.
 
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   / Coffee scoops and coffee makers #110  
Hey Dark,

Maybe consider swapping that all-in-one out for a decent inexpensive burr grinder, like the Baratza Encore, and then a separate brewer. The coffee maker is really the least important part of the whole rig, it's just heating and pouring water, the ingredients (beans) and grinder are really what determines flavor and quality, to a much greater degree than the brewer.

I have the Baratza Virtuoso, which is basically the big brother to the Encore, with slightly better materials and (IIRC?) slightly larger burrs. I use it for pour over and French press, pretty much daily for 15 years, and it was a great investment. I also have their Sette 270 for espresso, which has been a little less robust, but also produces excellent grinds directly into a portafilter for espresso.

On brewers: I became a big fan of Bunn for pour-over, when most of the other USA-available brewers stepped down their brew temperature 15-20 years ago. Brewers are about as simple as a lead sinker, but they do need to heat water to 205F'ish, and very few of those you can buy at Walmart today actually do that, thanks to... lawyers. At least as of when I bought my old A10, Bunn hadn't bowed to that stupidity, being mostly in the commercial/restaurant market. Another good brand is Technovorm, but they're stupid expensive (European), and the few models they offered in the USA were too tall to fit under our kitchen cabinets, back when I was buying.

Mr. Coffee was always an excellent cheap brewer, 20+ years ago. Then they followed the rest and stepped down their brew temperature, maybe 15 years ago. I heard that they got so many complaints from their loyal fans, that they may have reverted, and gone back to a higher brew temperature. I haven't confirmed that, but I saw it reported somewhere on another site.
I have a nice electric grinder, and a manual grinder. But, they are for small amounts per single grind. Great for my Aeropress... you definitely bring up good points. The Beans and the Grind as well as water temp are the real important points for a good brew. Definitely looking into your suggestions!
 

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