EddieWalker
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Couldn't they just start the fire earlier in the day?
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Cold Start advice on Fireplace Stove Insert
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Looking for a foolproof method because of renters... home is near Olympia WA
I've never had any issues. Very disappointing to have smoke damaged paint every time someone moves.
The fireplace is massive stone and brick with a large oval flue tile... guessing about 17' hearth to chimney top.
Thought about a log-lighter... house is all electric so no gas presently onsite.
Sweep mentioned a chimney top exhaust fan that is foolproof... cost installed is about $2500... only warranted for 2 or 3 years.
In Austria, I always used a propane torch to start the tile oven... just convenient... due to the ovens mass... the first fire of the winter season would always release one big beltch of smoke up the chimney and then be OK the rest of the year...
I've never had any issues. Very disappointing to have smoke damaged paint every time someone moves.
The fireplace is massive stone and brick with a large oval flue tile... guessing about 17' hearth to chimney top.
Thought about a log-lighter... house is all electric so no gas presently onsite.
Sweep mentioned a chimney top exhaust fan that is foolproof... cost installed is about $2500... only warranted for 2 or 3 years.
In Austria, I always used a propane torch to start the tile oven... just convenient... due to the ovens mass... the first fire of the winter season would always release one big beltch of smoke up the chimney and then be OK the rest of the year...
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It's always easier to get a good chimney draft when the outside temperature is colder. If the fire is being lit for atmosphere and it's fairly warm outside, that won't help.
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That is what I do on our wood boiler. Works well and starts the smoke going up the chimney.Prime it first. (Don't climb up on the roof and poor a bucket of water down it ! :laughingtake some newspaper ,ball it up and hold it up as high in the stove as you can. If the house is really tight open a window an inch or two. Once you get the air in the chimney warm it should draw fine. I had to add a draft inducer to a stove once but only needed it on very windy days.
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Only a guess...
I'm thinking the 17' of tile chimney flue is very cold and damp because it is seldom used.
The stove insert is airtight so no warm house air is getting in unless the door is left open.
There are two other stoves...
a pellet stove which has had several service calls due to user error...
and another wood stove with a 7' stainless flue pipe that never seems to be a problem...
I'm thinking the 17' of tile chimney flue is very cold and damp because it is seldom used.
The stove insert is airtight so no warm house air is getting in unless the door is left open.
There are two other stoves...
a pellet stove which has had several service calls due to user error...
and another wood stove with a 7' stainless flue pipe that never seems to be a problem...
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I'm thinking a LP log lighter might be too problematic for a rental situation???
Any comments from those that are familiar?
Any comments from those that are familiar?
Maybe one of those firelogs or firestarters would help. Most burn about 2-3 hours. Put that in the stove, light it, then pile firewood on top. Surely by the time the log burned, the chimney would be warm enough to draw.
ronjhall
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My mother wood stove always had this problem. She used a small electric room heater in the stove door. This started air flow up the chimney. Then she lit wood fire.
-while researching a wood stove 2 years back I found some interesting information. the fireplace inserts are a formula for disaster. It seems that the large flues used for fireplaces will allow fast and heavy creosote build up. After an increase in chimney fires when the inserts first came out it was discovered that the inserts needed a properly sized chimney just like a stove. I went with Rockford Chimney Supply. I was able to do the work myself and had no issues what so ever very easy installation of the flexible SS liner.
Egon
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The fellows suggesting a smaller flue sise are on the right track.:thumbsup:
