COLD starting JD X748

   / COLD starting JD X748
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#11  
I'll have to check, but I had assumed the glow plugs were working since even on a day with temps only around freezing, it wouldn't start without waiting for the plug light to go out.

I have a block heater in my Massey and when I'm going to need that and it's bitter cold I will plug it in late at night and it starts right up in the morning.

Does the tractor have an indicator light for the glow plugs? My Massey Ferguson has a little coil that slowly turns bright red as you're holding the glow plugs on that gives you a relative idea of when they're ready to start. It's not uncommon for me to give it a good 15 seconds, even more on super super cold winter days. Try giving it 1/3 or 1/2 throttle too, that should help engine speed stabilize faster when it first comes to life.

I also have a diesel Volkswagen that's 15 years old now and almost 300,000 miles. That starting system is more advanced in that the glow plugs stay on automatically for a set amount of time determined by the computer based on ambient temperature. The dash has a light that goes out when they're ready.

Assuming youre system is working correctly. But for a quick check if you have a voltmeter, set it to ohms, pop the wire off each glow plug, hold one end to the metal tip of each plug, and the other end to ground. Resistance should be a couple of ohms. When the plugs go bad they will go to infinity, or I've seen partially failed plugs that will read several hundred ohms.

I will say on my Massey starting cold is much more ugly than my Volkswagen, it starts right up no problem but there's a lot of smoke, and the engine turns very slow for several seconds (slower than idle) until the engine can generate enough heat to stabilize.
 
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#12  
Today I ordered a Master Kero heater and I'll keep that and the 748 in the lower level of our unheated garage. Shouldn't take that much to heat things up a bit before trying to start. :)

I don't remember exactly what the dealer quoted for a block heater install on the JD but I'm thinking in the long run that's the way to go despite the cost.


I had a new 595 and later a new X740 through the winters in Wisconsin. They were new so their glow plugs were new also, by they both had a bear of a time especially when the temp got down to the minus zeros Fahrenheit. They would gallop for half a minute but eventually they always started. If it was minus 20 or minus 20 I really doubt they would have started.

Thirty degrees and colder they were slower starting but never gave me a great concern. They were always in an unheated pole shed in the middle of Wisconsin.

I would price a block heater because maybe his definition of pricey and yours are miles apart. Maybe aim a torpedo heater towards the tractor for 145 minutes would help, just don't melt the plastic. Possibly a heater to put in the water line going to the radiator.
 
   / COLD starting JD X748 #13  
Today I ordered a Master Kero heater and I'll keep that and the 748 in the lower level of our unheated garage. Shouldn't take that much to heat things up a bit before trying to start. :)

I don't remember exactly what the dealer quoted for a block heater install on the JD but I'm thinking in the long run that's the way to go despite the cost.

Just had the JD heater installed on my 2010 X748. 1 hour labor $64, Adaptor Kit AM134805 $75.60, Coolant Heater AM87167 $80.90, shop/supplies/antifreeze $5.50 .... TOTAL COST EXCLUDING TAX $226.00
 
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Good, your tractor will thank you.
 
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Just had the JD heater installed on my 2010 X748. 1 hour labor $64, Adaptor Kit AM134805 $75.60, Coolant Heater AM87167 $80.90, shop/supplies/antifreeze $5.50 .... TOTAL COST EXCLUDING TAX $226.00

I'll have to recheck but that sounds like a quite a bit less than what my dealer quoted me originally. I'll print this out and take it with me to try and shame 'em! :D
 
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jym
That always works.

I don't find the part # AM87167.
 

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