Colorado Fire

   / Colorado Fire #21  
It was nearly a thousand homes lost, actually. In such a short amount of time. 115 mph wind gusts driving it. Absolutely crazy.
 
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#22  
I applaud officials searching for a cause. Not to cast blame. Instead to see if the cause could be prevented in the future.

If there was an announced fire ban and someone violated it, the gloves come off.
 
   / Colorado Fire #23  
From what I heard and read, it was a "red flag day".
 
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#24  
From what I heard and read, it was a "red flag day".
So now investigate to see if their fire was accidental or deliberate.
 
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#26  
Those are quite common here in the winter. Any day with wind is a red flag day.
Yep. But once this goes into Court, if it does, whether someone is legally responsible for starting an illegal fire or not will become very clouded.

I'm very curious to see where this leads.
 
   / Colorado Fire #27  
I applaud officials searching for a cause. Not to cast blame. Instead to see if the cause could be prevented in the future.

If there was an announced fire ban and someone violated it, the gloves come off.

High wind days are always fire ban days in CO. My inlaws place was 3 miles away, they could see it burning. Not good, but its a risk we all take..just like those in tornado or hurricane areas.
 
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High wind days are always fire ban days in CO. My inlaws place was 3 miles away, they could see it burning. Not good, but its a risk we all take..just like those in tornado or hurricane areas.
Sorry for their loss....

If it is officially/legally determined that it was a fire ban day, and a fire was deliberately started, there's justification for prosecution.

If it is determined that at the time the fire started a fire ban had not been declared, prosecution will become extremely difficult.

It it is determined the fire was accidentally started, it's a mute point.

That's why a thorough investigation needs to take place.
 
   / Colorado Fire #29  
All the families that lost their homes and lost their businesses, and the insurance carriers are gonna be pointing fingers. Someone is at fault, even if it was a "mistake". When the losses are in the Billions, lawsuits will be coming.
 
   / Colorado Fire #30  
I thought it was already determined a tree fell in the high winds on a power line.
 
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I thought it was already determined a tree fell in the high winds on a power line.
I had heard that too. But now they are investigating further. So until they officially announce a cause, it's wide open.
 
   / Colorado Fire #33  
The only wires they found were telecom wires.
 
   / Colorado Fire #34  
All the families that lost their homes and lost their businesses, and the insurance carriers are gonna be pointing fingers. Someone is at fault, even if it was a "mistake". When the losses are in the Billions, lawsuits will be coming.
Yes these weren’t cheap homes. $1mil+ each.
 
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   / Colorado Fire #36  
I thought it was already determined a tree fell in the high winds on a power line.
Last I read the local electricity provider (Xcel) did an inspection of the lines in the area where the start of the fire was reported and found no evidence of a tree. Now apparently there is a “shed” that is the origin and caught fire. A religious cult owns it, but apparently it could have had a homeless person staying in it. So who the heck knows. Will probably end up being lightning or something lol!
 
   / Colorado Fire #37  
And odds are very, very good they are under insured.
It’s hard to keep up honestry. Home prices are skyrocketing in Colorado. We sold one last year, bought 8 years prior. value went up 120%.
 
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It’s hard to keep up honestry. Home prices are skyrocketing in Colorado. We sold one last year, bought 8 years prior. value went up 120%.
Yep. I was more referring to "construction costs". So an owner might find themselves without enough money to build back on their lot.
 
   / Colorado Fire #39  
Another possibility:

Deadly Colorado blaze renews focus on underground coal fires​


By MATTHEW BROWN and COLLEEN SLEVINyesterday
FILE - Rowdy Alexander watches from atop his horse as a hillside burns on the Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation on Aug 11, 2021, near Lame Deer, Mont. An area outside Denver where Colorado's most destructive in history wildfire burned 1,000 homes last month is home to numerous abandoned coal mines that authorities say could be a potential cause of the wind-driven wildfire. This past summer in Montana, smoldering coal seams were blamed for a string of major fires that burned hundreds of square miles and prompted widespread evacuations. (AP Photo/Matthew Brown, File)





DENVER (AP) — A fire raging in an underground Colorado coal field in 1883 sent so much smoke pouring from cracks in the ground that the scene was likened to burning volcanoes and the state's first mining inspector deemed the blaze “impossible to extinguish.”

Nearly 140 years later two fires still smolder in the now-abandoned coal field near Boulder — the same area where a wildfire last month destroyed more than 1,000 homes and buildings and killed at least one person.

It’s still unknown what caused the December blaze that became the most destructive in Colorado history, but Boulder County authorities have said they’re investigating the area’s abandoned coal mines as one of several possible causes, along with power lines, human activity and other possibilities.

Could smoldering coal have started such a fire? History shows the answer is yes, with at least two Colorado blazes in the past 20 years blamed on mine fires that spread to the surface. And in Montana this past summer slow-burning coal reserves fanned by winds sparked a pair of blazes that burned a combined 267 square miles (691 square kilometers) on and around the Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation.
 
   / Colorado Fire #40  
Another possibility:

Deadly Colorado blaze renews focus on underground coal fires​


By MATTHEW BROWN and COLLEEN SLEVINyesterday
FILE - Rowdy Alexander watches from atop his horse as a hillside burns on the Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation on Aug 11, 2021, near Lame Deer, Mont. An area outside Denver where Colorado's most destructive in history wildfire burned 1,000 homes last month is home to numerous abandoned coal mines that authorities say could be a potential cause of the wind-driven wildfire. This past summer in Montana, smoldering coal seams were blamed for a string of major fires that burned hundreds of square miles and prompted widespread evacuations. (AP Photo/Matthew Brown, File)'s most destructive in history wildfire burned 1,000 homes last month is home to numerous abandoned coal mines that authorities say could be a potential cause of the wind-driven wildfire. This past summer in Montana, smoldering coal seams were blamed for a string of major fires that burned hundreds of square miles and prompted widespread evacuations. (AP Photo/Matthew Brown, File)





DENVER (AP) — A fire raging in an underground Colorado coal field in 1883 sent so much smoke pouring from cracks in the ground that the scene was likened to burning volcanoes and the state's first mining inspector deemed the blaze “impossible to extinguish.”

Nearly 140 years later two fires still smolder in the now-abandoned coal field near Boulder — the same area where a wildfire last month destroyed more than 1,000 homes and buildings and killed at least one person.

It’s still unknown what caused the December blaze that became the most destructive in Colorado history, but Boulder County authorities have said they’re investigating the area’s abandoned coal mines as one of several possible causes, along with power lines, human activity and other possibilities.

Could smoldering coal have started such a fire? History shows the answer is yes, with at least two Colorado blazes in the past 20 years blamed on mine fires that spread to the surface. And in Montana this past summer slow-burning coal reserves fanned by winds sparked a pair of blazes that burned a combined 267 square miles (691 square kilometers) on and around the Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation.

As a former coal miner, yes, it is possible.
 

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