Compact pickup choices

   / Compact pickup choices #11  
Buy a Honda Ridgeline, and let us all know what you think after you tow with it.

I like the Honda but I'm afraid to try it, especially since I already have a 6.6L Duramax/Allison in a Silverado 2500HD 4x4 ExtCab which seems to satisfy all of my towing needs.

If you tell us the Honda is good, maybe I'll sell the Silverado... NOT!
 
   / Compact pickup choices #12  
I'm not sure why you list the trucks you do. If it's for fuel economy, don't waste your money on the dakota. You will get the same or better mileage with a full sized GMC, and it'll be a lot more truck. All the other trucks listed are nice for their intended use; but bear in mind that the tractor and trailer will be approaching the same weight as the tow vehicle. Yes, they might do the job; but I prefer a little margin for error, and a little more weight isn't a bad thing. JMHO.
 
   / Compact pickup choices #13  
Good question... if it's mileage you're concerned about... I average around 18mpg with my diesel, taking all uses into account. IMHO this is excellent considering what the truck does and what it is capable of doing.

These little trucks are fine for little jobs. I really don't think anyone can recommend any of them in good conscience for towing the tractor/trailer you are wanting to tow. In fact, I am compelled to tell you DON'T DO IT.

There are real good reasons why there are big trucks and little trucks, and I have a feeling you are about to find out the hard way.
 
   / Compact pickup choices #14  
My dad has a '99 ranger and for a runabout/tool hauler it does a good job and is comfy. 4.0V6 OHV auto. High teens MPG.
Wouldn't tow much more than a lawn mower with it.

A friend at work has a '00 dakota with the 4.7 5spd. A really peppy, fun ride. Has towed small cars on a trailer with good reported results. 18mpg if he stays out of the throttle. (he don't)

My '99 F350 diesel does 18-19mpg average and I could haul either of these trucks if I could fit em in the bed.

Unless your fitting into tight spaces, Any truck these days is gonna get about the same MPG. Why skimp?
 
   / Compact pickup choices #15  
I've owned 3 smaller pickups, Ranger, Nissen, and Toyota. By far the best was the Ranger. All three had bulletproof engines but the body in the Ranger held up far better than the others. I have a friend with a Dodge Dakota, he likes everything about it except the gas mileage. The ranger averaged 19 in the city and 24 on the highway.
 
   / Compact pickup choices #16  
Personally, I'm going to disagree with the guys telling you that you shouldn't tow with a compact truck. The new compacts are great trucks, and they're the most capable compacts ever built (most new ones fall in the midsize category with the Dakota). I feel comfortable saying this assuming that you meet the following criteria: 1) locally means with a 5-8 mi. radius 2) you won't be towing often, say more than about 1-2x a month 3) you don't intend to try to haul implements with the tractor and 4) your trailer has tandem brake axles, or you will add brakes to both axles, and add a brake control to the truck if need be. If you meet these criteria, then there is no need in buying a full size if you don't want one.

Compacts have a few advantages and disadvantages in this circumstance vs. a full size. Compacts are typically cheaper to buy, manuever easier (for example parking at wal-mart), have the potential to get a little better mileage, and they are smaller, which may be a factor in whether or not the truck fits in the garage. However, mileage is not always better than on full size trucks (as some other users have mentioned), a compact may not be quite as comfortable for the driver and/or passengers, payload isn't as much as a full size, towing capacity isn't as high, and compacts will typically weigh a good 1/2 T less than a full size (we all know wt. is your friend in a tow vehicle so that the tail can't wag the dog as easily).

Only you know how far and how frequently you will be towing, but I feel confident saying that you can tow a 2305 with a compact truck so long as you tow locally and infrequently. I would guess the loaded trailer wt. to be very close to 5000#, so with tandem electric brake axles and a properly adjusted brake controller, you should be able to safely stop the loaded truck and trailer. Of course, the compact won't tow as well as a full size 1/2 T, which won't tow as well as a 3/4 T, which won't tow as well as a 1 T, which won't tow as well as a class 8 tractor.

As to which of the compact trucks would be best, only you can decide which one appeals most to you after driving them all. My personal pick would be the Nissan Frontier; it is built on a modified Titan frame, has a strong v6, good payload and tow ratings, a well laid out interior, and probably the most enjoyable driving dynamics of any of the small trucks.

I also like the Dakota for a few reasons: 1) it is the largest of the small trucks, so would be the best for towing from a wt. standpoint 2) available v8 for strong torque (but I believe all around you would find either the Nissan or Toyota v6 a better all around engine). However, the Dakota will get poor mileage with a v8, and the power won't come up to the Japanese competition with the v6--so it would probably land itself in last place on my list of the trucks you're comparing.

I think the Ford Ranger is a terrific little truck for the money. If price is the dominant factor in choosing a compact truck, I believe it would move the Ranger into first place. Yes, the Ranger is the oldest design among the trucks you mention, but it is a solid, proven, truck. It is definately the most trucklike (and least carlike) of the compact trucks. However, for the money you would be hard pressed to find a tougher, more durable, and more capable little truck. I wouldn't buy a Ranger with anything other than the 4.0L engine for towing a small tractor.

I have neither looked at, researched, nor driven the Tacoma, so I won't comment on it, other than to say that Toyota builds fine vehicles and the Tacoma should be no different.

Once more, make sure you have functioning brakes on both trailer axles.
 
   / Compact pickup choices #17  
I've owned a
-Ranger
-Nissan
-Toyota
I sold my Nissan with over 200,000 miles on it. Very few problems, some of the switches started to go towards the end, and I could see it was going to start costing some money. I chose to go with Toyota this time, and I love it so far. I've had many people tell me how happy they were with their Tacoma. They have a huge following, and I can see why.
The Ranger was ok. No love for it and had a few minor issues. Still no big complaint.
 
   / Compact pickup choices #18  
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I would not let the weight of the tow vehicle vs the drawn objects bother me more than an improper setup. Keep in mind, most of those large lumbering right lane dwellers on the highway are towing 65k in drawn weight with 15k worth of tow vehicle.
 
   / Compact pickup choices #19  
Just a couple of years ago, consumer reports listed the Ranger as number 1 in overall quality for compact trucks. If you plan to keep it for a long time, the "old" design means that there is a wide year model spread of parts. It will be easy to find parts for years to come. My choice would be a supercab Ranger. You give up some bed length, but have some room inside to store items that you wouldn't want left in the bed.
 
   / Compact pickup choices #20  
Looks as though most are casting their votes for the Dakota. I rented one once while my Tacoma was being repaired. Big problem with the automatic is that it's geared with way too ratio a rear end to hold speed while going downhill. If you get it in stick shift, it'll probably be okay.

Love my Tacoma, and without any heavy towing consid, it's the one to buy because it's the lightest weight, or used to be. Gets 27 mpg overall (with tonneau over the rear) with a 4 cylinder stick, 2wd, and 30 mpg on highway even going 85 mph with its HEMMI head engine. (Would love to find a HEMMI emblem off a Dodgo to put on it.) The Tacoma is too light to pull a 1400# of tractor plus attachments for very far. I did rent a heavy trailer from a rental outfit and brought home my 400# Gravely plus all its attachments up and down the hills around here. Could tell the trailer was back there, but it certainly had the power to pull it, and it didn't seem to want to tail wag it. My 1996 only weighs just short of 3,000#.

Ralph
 

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