Comparing toothbars

[Knight]

I am looking at Markham vs Yankeewarehouse. Does the Markham teeth postion the tooth lower than the bucket? When your bucket is level, is the tooth below the bucket?
It seems like Yankee TB puts the tooth level with the bucket.
Maybe making finer clean up possible.
Please posts a comment if you have one of these TB.

 

[ninefinger]

I have a Markham and the teeth are somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4" below the cutting edge of the bucket.

 

[7800DUDE]

I have a WR Long FLAT TOOTH BAR THEY DO NOT GO LOWER THEN BUCKET THEY ARE EVEN WITH BUCKET

 

[gmsssi]

Markham - below the cutting edge!

 

[Knight]

Does it matter that the teeth are below the bucket?

 

[jdfire]

I don't own a toothbar yet, but I am interested in getting one so I have read many of the threads on this subject.

It seems that the main objection to having the teeth below the level of the bucket is when you want to use the lip of the bucket to backdrag an area to make it smooth.

The work-around to that problem is that some of the bars (Markham included) allow you to loosen the attachment bolts and swing the toothbar up into the bucket. Others say that you shouldn't be backdragging with the lip of the bucket anyways because of the stress to the hydraulic cylinders. The better method would be to use the heal of the bucket.

Like I said, I'm not an expert on this, this is just a recap of what I have read here. Hope it helps!

 

[jinman]

Does it matter that the teeth are below the bucket?

I think it's important to have the teeth below the bucket because it normally adds strength to the cutting edge of the bucket and keeps individual teeth from twisting, particularly when you are using the teeth to scarify while going in reverse. However, your ability to backdrag nicely or spread materials evenly with the bucket lip is about completely destroyed with either type of teeth. Your options are to buy a second bucket without a toothbar (what I did since my loader is quick-tach) or take the toothbar off.

Don't get me wrong. I LOVE my toothbar. It's like fingers on a hand. Can you imagine using your hand with no fingers? I can rotate my bucket down or up so I can see the teeth and use them for all kinds of fine manipulation of anythings from stones to limbs. I can also say that completely smooth backdragging is possible with the heal of the bucket, but perfect backdragging is way overrated. I can't think of much where a few lines from toothbar teeth really matters.

 

[Bill Hoffman]

Backgrade with the heel of the bucket, works well to smooth, and also helps to protect the cylinder rods.

 

[carpenter383]

I have a tooth bar, but mostly just use a box blade for smoothing.

 

[Knight]

My question is not really about grading, but picking up small piles off asphalt.
Would different teeth options help you get more of the pile or is picking up small piles no better with a flush mount tooth?