computers in tractors

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jonsstihl

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with all makes adding more and more computers in tractors now do the grand l60 series tractors have some type of obd2 style connector where you can plug in a scanner and get some data or read codes?
 
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Don't know, but I rather doubt it. It would seem to be helpful to diagnose the new ones with the tier 4 crap.
 
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I saw a Messicks video where they plugged a computer in somewhere to get regen data. I think it was an L01 series tractor. It’s definitely not an OBD2 connector, and is proprietary. Likely impossible to get the necessary software.
 
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I hate this stuff in tractors, fourwheelers, snow machines, and chainsaws:mad:
 
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The auto industry has standardized but I guess the tractor industry is a little farther behind.

I don't like it either but the computers are here to stay and being able to plug in and get data is essential in trouble shooting.
 
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Love my Branson 4520R :thumbsup: No computer to tell it when to inject fuel, Just gears. Not Spacely Sprockets but Coswell Cogs.
 
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The auto industry has standardized but I guess the tractor industry is a little farther behind.

I don't like it either but the computers are here to stay and being able to plug in and get data is essential in trouble shooting.

Or just buy the older models without computers and run them forever. Look how many 40 and 50 yr old tractors are running around.

We are right at the cusp where tractors USED to be easy to maintain with "common" tools and knowledge. Like cars in the 1970's.
 
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Cars are kinda standardized. You can pull basic P-series codes and view some data from any OBD2 car with a cheap scanner. Advanced functions (ABS, transmission, body, and of course, key programming) often require the dealer rig or at least some form of online authorization (which is super annoying).

Medium and heavy duty diesel trucks have a different interface and different computers. Same with motorcycles, ATV's, UTV's, and personal watercraft. .. and yes, tractors. I have a $1200 pass through box used to connect a laptop to Harley Davidson bikes JUST so I can program the stupid UFO key fob that immobilizes the bike if lost. It ONLY works on Harleys. If I want to talk to a Goldwing, I guess I'll have to buy a widget from Honda for that. There is zero standardization once you get outside of light duty autos.

You could probably buy the Kubota interface and software if you really wanted it. . . probably not cost effective and no doubt there's a learning curve.
 
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It throws codes on the dash LCD most of the time.

Any concerns about computers in tractors are about 1000x over blown. We have almost zero problems with the computer itself.
 
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Or just buy the older models without computers and run them forever. Look how many 40 and 50 yr old tractors are running around.

We are right at the cusp where tractors USED to be easy to maintain with "common" tools and knowledge. Like cars in the 1970's.

Exactly! I am very pleased with my little tractor, always starts, electricity is only for starter, lights and a few caution lights and gauges such as oil pressure and water temp. No fancy tools required to maintain it.
 
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I agree that all the concerns about any computer interface are WAY overblown.

A computer doesn't do anything it's not TOLD to do by its' program/programmer.

In short, it's more an aid than anything else.

Our problem is learning how to read what the computer is telling "Big Brother".
So that we can discern what is needed. Rather than depend on a dealer/mechanic with
an eye on our {What we think is} wallet.

Oh!! How I hate it when I have trust anyone with my equipment attached to my wallet.

But I've found that, at least in my corner of the south, most dealers are there to help us.
Thieves within the dealer framework don't last long.

To that end, where ever possible, I personally do all the work I possibly can on all of my own equipment.
 
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How far back should we be looking for a used tractor without a computer?
 
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I'm still learning.
I guess an 8N or a L2501 would be considered a compact, and smaller is subcompact?
I want an 8N size tractor.
 
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For Kubota, the BX series are sub compact, B's and L's are compact tractors, and the various M's cover the larger compacts well into the Ag tractors.
The line between compact and Ag used to be 60hp, but who knows what the current nomenclature is.
 
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Is this too many computers in a tractor? This is the cab of a CaseIH AFS Connect Steiger Series tractor!

AFS Connect Steiger 500 cab_0590_12-19.jpg
 
 
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