slowrev
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What is Graphite composed of ? It is used as a lubricant.
Ben
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Confused - Sulfur as a natural lubricant in diesel
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Hot Dog! I may actually get that diesel powered Toyota Land Cruiser after all. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I've only been wanting one for about 10 years now! I've been into reading about long "safari" trips to places everywhere from Africa, Alaska, and even a trip across Antartica. The vehicle of choice on almost all of these trips seems to be the diesel powered Toyota Land Cruiser. However, when I ask a Toyota dealer here, I get a blank stare and a comment like "we don't have a diesel powered Land Cruiser".
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I work with two postdocs in our lab from Australia and you should see the photos of their outrageously equipped turbodiesel Land Cruiser crusing the outback, this thing looks and is as heavy duty as a locomotive (kangroo catcher and all)! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Graphite is sheeted carbon atoms in a planar configuration, it sure works great in hundreds of millions of pencils after the lead was banned from all pencils. (Sounds like a deja vu of the lamented unleaded gas saga, but actually lead was taken out of pencils over a hundred years ago due to its extreme toxicity)
Wonder how many graphite pencils per gallon of ULSD it will take to replace the missing sulfur? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Wonder how many graphite pencils per gallon of ULSD it will take to replace the missing sulfur? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Yeah.. but same argument could be made about diamonds... I think it falls down to molecular structure.. etc..
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Yeah.. but same argument could be made about diamonds... I think it falls down to molecular structure.. etc..
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Yeah, probably the structure.
Of course I am confused as well on the high sulphur/low sulpher lubrication issue as well.
One thing for sure the high sulfur off road fuel is more stinky. Sort of liked the smell when I used to work with dozers and such.....
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Of course I am confused as well on the high sulphur/low sulpher lubrication issue as well.
One thing for sure the high sulfur off road fuel is more stinky. Sort of liked the smell when I used to work with dozers and such.....
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Is there enough compression pressure in a diesel engine to convert the molecular structure of graphite into diamonds?
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Probably won't convert it to diamonds. Nice industrial diamond business if it would /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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So, SkyPup,I've read the post from before and the recent postings here and basicly I believe we're concentrating on arguing different points,while we agree on the final outcome. Wether sulfer is a lubricant or not, the removal of it creates a less lubricated diesel fuel. Bottom line, the lubricity has to be restored with some sort of additive,assumably at the refinery. Sulfer IS the major cause of diesel poloution, it must be removed for us to evolve into developing a diesel market in the U.S. This is the reason for the ULSD regulations comming down the pike before '07. With this said, I think we can all agree. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I have personally used the fuel additives in my Powerstroke and have seen a noticable difference in idle quality, performance and fuel economy. Now depending on where you are in the country and what fuel you use, your results may differ. However the cost of the additive factored into the fuel fill up, I pay less per mile for diesel. The additive gives me on average 1.5mpg increase, driving typically 80mph on the highway. I will continue to run it,even in my tractor, with or without ULSD. Its cheap assurance.
The future does look bright for diesel vehicles. All the manufacturers are waiting for this. Everyone, even VW is experiencing difficulties here in the states due to the fuel. Once this is addressed, we'll have to address the public's impression of diesel vehicles.When you talk diesel the American public automaticly thinks early '80s when you had nasty Mercedes, GM's, Fords, VW's,BMW's, etc smoking, dripping and breaking down left and right. You couldnt even follow one on the road without getting a sheen of oil on your windshield. No one wants that again. No offence intended to those that own these vehicles, I'm sure you too could admit this wasnt our finest hour.
I have personally used the fuel additives in my Powerstroke and have seen a noticable difference in idle quality, performance and fuel economy. Now depending on where you are in the country and what fuel you use, your results may differ. However the cost of the additive factored into the fuel fill up, I pay less per mile for diesel. The additive gives me on average 1.5mpg increase, driving typically 80mph on the highway. I will continue to run it,even in my tractor, with or without ULSD. Its cheap assurance.
The future does look bright for diesel vehicles. All the manufacturers are waiting for this. Everyone, even VW is experiencing difficulties here in the states due to the fuel. Once this is addressed, we'll have to address the public's impression of diesel vehicles.When you talk diesel the American public automaticly thinks early '80s when you had nasty Mercedes, GM's, Fords, VW's,BMW's, etc smoking, dripping and breaking down left and right. You couldnt even follow one on the road without getting a sheen of oil on your windshield. No one wants that again. No offence intended to those that own these vehicles, I'm sure you too could admit this wasnt our finest hour.
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Agreed! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
We always use PowerService too, it is cheap insurance for our 8 diesel fuel fuel pumps in all our tractors, mowers, cars, and trucks.
We always use PowerService too, it is cheap insurance for our 8 diesel fuel fuel pumps in all our tractors, mowers, cars, and trucks.
