Winches Considering a hydraulic winch

J_J · Feb 27, 2006

A 1500 psi relief valve should solve the problem. Surplus hydraulics has some of these for around $50 .

Rip · Feb 28, 2006

You are right JJ.

Speaking of Surplus Center, they also list a new Dayton 8000 lb hyd winch on the back cover of the latest catalog for $800 w/o cable rated to 15 gpm @ min 1800 psi. This industrial winch was almost $1300 in Granger in '04.

BAGTIC · Mar 4, 2006

I sure could have used a winch this morning. I had three 40-50 foot tall, 24-30 inch diameter, windfall red oak trees in a stock pond. The PT425 did not have the power or the weight to move them. I finally resorted to clambering out on the trunks with a little 18 inch chain saw and breaking them into smaller packets. It was cold. This morning at 8 AM there was a thin fringe of ice around the edges.

I eventually ended up wading out into about 40 inches of muck and water. Trimming the branches above water was easy but sticking the chain below water to cut the submerged parts proved harder than I thought. Running a chain in water dulls it FAST. I went through three new chains.

MossRoad · Mar 4, 2006

Those sound like huge trees. The PT425 may be a mighty machine, but it knows its limits. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

bjustice · Mar 4, 2006

I would never have made it through ONE chain standing in 40" of ice-fringed water /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
bill

J_J · Mar 23, 2006

What was the outcome on the hydraulic winch?

KentT · Mar 23, 2006

JJ,

I haven't bought a winch yet. I'm now facing an unplanned approximate $5,000 expense to grind up the huge brush pile I created when I cleared my lot...

That's deferred any new toys for a while...

Gravy · Mar 24, 2006

Last time I was at the PT factory, I took a good look at the current winch. As far as I can tell, it's nothing more than a White Hydraulics CE series motor (I think it's around 18 in3/rev) directly coupled to a very simple winch drum (pipe, plate, round stock and pillow block bearings, with no freewheeling clutch or other tomfoolery), along with a reversing valve and hoses.

If I didn't already have a salvaged industrial worm drive winch waiting for me to couple to a motor (I've got a whole sack of Round Tuit's here somewhere), I'd weld up a drum and bolt it up to my PHD/tree planter motor & valve. Last time I looked, Surplus Center still had a bunch of used Hydrocomp motors for $59 each that would probably work just fine. Add an open center, 4 way, 3 position detented spool valve (motor spool if you want freewheeling in neutral, cylinder spool for loadholding) and I think you're good to go.

You can choose your motor size to optimize speed vs line pull for your intended application. Based on what I remember of Surplus Center's winch drive info, I'd guess that for a PT 425, a range of about 14 to 24 inch motor displacement would work well with about a 2" drum size.

Surely one of us has the time, ability, and inclination to try it? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Gravy

Marshhoe · Mar 3, 2015

Yes I have a 12,000 mile marker on my 2002 duramax.
Love it! Works like I do all day. I had the electric Ramsey,
Pierce,and waren the duty time is not good and they eat
Battery's and alternaters. Look into how long a winch can
Run with out stopping and you will see hydraulic will come
Out on top.