Conspicuity Tape Stick To Undercoating?

   / Conspicuity Tape Stick To Undercoating? #12  
newbury said:
Luckily I just happened to pick up a bunch of strips at HF last Tuesday.

You must be rich! Spendy stuff.
 
   / Conspicuity Tape Stick To Undercoating? #13  
We repaint trailers all the time and the best thing to do is sandblast the trailer first. After that, a nice layer of primer, followed by paint.

I'm not a fan of undercoating.

Good luck in your undertaking.
 
   / Conspicuity Tape Stick To Undercoating? #14  
Thanks, even more confusing, my 12,000 GVWR trailer is not commercial.

Luckily I just happened to pick up a bunch of strips at HF last Tuesday.
Not sure why you think commercial/non commercial makes a difference? Think safety, follow the guidelines the best you can.

To bad you have already purchased tape. You can get reflective strips on a solid backing that secure with a couple of screws.

As you can see if you peel back your tape from the protective backing, it is quite thick. Anything other than a flat surface will cause air pockets underneath allowing debris to build and evenually tape failure. That will not happen overnight. You can still get plenty of service out of it. As it ages and hardens, it will break off in little pieces. You will still have some reflective benefit, it just won't look as good as new.

The rough surface will also make the tape look not as "nice" but I don't guess that is a big issue?
 
   / Conspicuity Tape Stick To Undercoating?
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Thanks, even more confusing, my 12,000 GVWR trailer is not commercial.

Luckily I just happened to pick up a bunch of strips at HF last Tuesday.

Commercial/non commercial doesn't make any difference. Regs for lights and tape are the same. The 2nd link has a section that talks about tape, and the the diagrams are pretty clear.
 
   / Conspicuity Tape Stick To Undercoating?
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#16  
We repaint trailers all the time and the best thing to do is sandblast the trailer first. After that, a nice layer of primer, followed by paint.

I'm not a fan of undercoating.

Good luck in your undertaking.

Have you had bad experiences with undercoating?
 
   / Conspicuity Tape Stick To Undercoating? #17  
Not sure why you think commercial/non commercial makes a difference? Think safety, follow the guidelines the best you can.

To bad you have already purchased tape. You can get reflective strips on a solid backing that secure with a couple of screws.

The title of the document is not :"FMCSA Conspicuity Guidelines", it's "FMCSA Conspicuity Requirements"

My bad, I missed paragraph 2 where it states it only applies to commercial vehicles.

Just as in "CDL vs non-CDL" if I DON'T have to meet a REQUIREMENT I won't get ticketed for not meeting it. My trailer is for my rec vehicle (a Kubota B7610) and nothing commercial.

Following a guideline is great, getting a $1,000 fine and having the trailer shut down because a patch of tape was off and a LEO had a bad day is not.

What's the magic difference in safety requirements between a trailer with a GVWR of 9,999 lbs and one with a GVWR of 10,002 lbs?

I purchased tapes because I've only a few patches of worn areas from the original. When I started painting (I'm about 70% done) I taped off the reflectors, wirebrushed the rust spots to metal and rattle canned.

Commercial/non commercial doesn't make any difference. Regs for lights and tape are the same. The 2nd link has a section that talks about tape, and the the diagrams are pretty clear.
Yes the diagrams are clear, but different. For example for the small bumper pull trailers you don't need tape across the entire back.

The first document just states
Each strip of retroreflective sheeting (or reflex reflector) must be positioned as horizontally as practicable, extending across the full width of the trailer, beginning and ending as close to the extreme edges as practicable.
 
   / Conspicuity Tape Stick To Undercoating? #18  
Have you had bad experiences with undercoating?

When new it is good, but like everything when it gets some age on it, it will trap moisture and other particles between it and the frame.

Paint is not perfect either, but when it starts to fade or crack, you can see it immediately and it does not trap moisture of other particles behind it.

We've blasted car frames that were undercoated and you can tell where the coating started to fail by the condition of the frame behind it compared to the other areas.

Good luck,
 

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