Constant flow kit and TomCat backhoe

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TheSheriff

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Location
Grants Pass, Oregon
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Jinma 284
A little background?

I recently purchased a new home on several unimproved acres and started making a list of all the tractor work projects I needed. As the quotes came in, my wish list dwindled to the bare necessities; A curtain drain behind the house and a level spot for a future shop. It occurred to me, for these prices, I could do the work myself over a period of time and still have a tractor to show for it. Enter the Jinma 284.

I originally ordered my 284 with the LW6 hoe. After many, many nights of reading this and other forums, I decided to go with a better quality backhoe. I anticipated possible issues with the new tractor and I did not want to deal with a problem tractor and a problem backhoe at the same time. (As it turns out, the 284 now has 15 trouble free hours). After a month of shopping, I could not beat the price of the BH-650 from Affordable. My best local price for a comparable USED hoe was more than a new TomCat shipped from Texas.... go figure (I'm in Oregon).

Fast forward to my BH from Tommy at Affordable Tractor and the constant flow kit from Ronald at Ranch Hand Supply. Dealing with these gentlemen has been effortless and refreshing! Both provided old school, genuine customer service.

I cannot say much about the BH-650 yet as I have only put it through its paces without actually getting it dirty. The hoe is supplied as a 3-pt mount, and despite Tommy's assurances of the strength of this mounting with careful/reasonable use, I wont put it to work until I fab a subframe mount. I will say that the supplied 3-pt attachments are absolutely MASSIVE. Much more so than anything they connect to on the tractor.

I was very impressed with the apparent quality of the hoe. It looks every bit the quality of the finest American made product. The controls are extremely smooth and to a large extent, multifunctional (Trying to say I can use more than one control input at the same time). Just the opposite of what I have read about the LW6. I feel very good about my decision purchasing this hoe.

Tommy suggested I purchase Ronald's constant flow kit. I called Ronald and after telling him I was a tractor newbie, Ronald explained in great detail exactly what I could expect, with and without his product... sound effects included! I ordered the kit with the unpainted bracket.

I really cant say enough about the kit. It works as advertised. The instructions were the most detailed I have ever seen for any product of similar complexity. I'm not making fun here, but Ronald even tells you to hold a specific part while you tighten the nut! How detailed is that? Pictures, pictures and more pictures. My wife could have installed this kit following the pics alone.

To further dummy-proof the kit, Ronald has washers, standoffs, etc, already attached to the appropriate fittings and bolts. My Christmas Eve bicycle assemblies back in the day were far more confusing.

On my tractor, the longest hose to the diverter valve was a bit of a challenge, requiring me to pry one of the hard lines out very slightly to gain clearance (The supplied hoses are very stout/stiff). I considered routing the hose differently, but thought better. Ronald has obviously given much thought to this kit and his hose routing is ideal.

I spent about two hours installing the kit, but that included several coffee breaks and numerous interruptions.

I could have painted my bracket Jinma red, but I'm not much into aesthetics and it wasn't worth cleaning my spray gun.

I highly recommend both products and both vendors. Now on to building my hoe frame.
 

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I'm not one bit surprised at the service you got from Tommy and Ronald - those guys are both great.

Tell me more about the "Constant Flow Kit" you installed - I looked for it on Ronald's website to find out what it was but I couldn't find it. I probably don't need one, since I don't have a hoe, but I like to learn things.

What do it do????

Rich
 
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As Rich said Tommy and Ronald are first rate and that is what makes our Chinese tractors such a great value. Thanks guys.

Chris
 
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I'm not one bit surprised at the service you got from Tommy and Ronald - those guys are both great.

Tell me more about the "Constant Flow Kit" you installed - I looked for it on Ronald's website to find out what it was but I couldn't find it. I probably don't need one, since I don't have a hoe, but I like to learn things.

What do it do????

Rich

Rich,

Understand that what follows is my understanding as it was explained to me... I'm still learning. Also, I believe the constant flow kits are Jinma specific to overcome a shortcoming in the plumbing.

I have the two auxiliary QD's at the rear of my 284. The pressure side comes off the valve between your legs which can control the speed that the TPH raises. You can see that QD in my second pic.

As Ronald explained it, I could use these original QD's, but the hydraulic volume is so reduced due to the routing through the TPH valve, that I would not be happy with my B/H's performance.

Ronald's kit replaces a hard line from the diverter valve, which is the first valve after the pump and FEL circuit, and sends it straight to the B/H. The return line completes the circuit going back to the original hard line's destination.

Hope that was close and reasonably accurate. The kit I ordered is at the bottom of this page;

Jinma Dealer, Wood Chipper , Compact Jinma Tractors

Brad
 
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Brad,

Thanks for the explanation and the link, that explained what I wanted to know. That's a good setup to have. If you later wanted to put in hydraulic top and tilt or something you could run it off of that by just adding a valve.

I keep on learning about new things that I want to get someday. :)

Rich
 
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I completed my frame mount and have been able to give my "Tomcat" a good workout. I am very pleased with the BH. I did have an issue with the shared boom/dipper pin shearing after 10 minutes of use, but Tommy replaced the faulty pin and I have had many trouble free hours.

Never having owned a BH, I have no comparison, but I can't think of any improvement, other than the usual "Bigger, stronger". A tad faster might be nice, but it probably wouldn't be worth the increased wear and tear... this thing snaps to pretty quick as is.

I'm real happy with my mount. It has proven to be stronger than the hoe (My goal). I was able to mount much closer that the original 3PT, as can be seen in the pics. I did have to modify my tractor seat to get it this close. I'm hoping the fact that I extended the front of the frame to the engine mount/front rails, will prevent any load stress problems later. The frame stays on the tractor and separates from the hoe frame with 6 bolts, Fun project!
 

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Nice job.

Chris
 

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