Convert old pickup or buy dump trailer? (long)

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Wow now that's a great ??? First of all i want to know what made u think of that . Cmon be honest!!!!! There has to be a story behind that ???.So tell us!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I'll tell you mine...For years when i wasn't doing line work
(being a travlin linemancan be very sporadic...thats why the big canvas bags we keep all of our tools in are called "drag bags"..unless somone <a href="mailto:pis@@@">pis@@@</a> us off and we decide to "drag up " early /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif or we heard af a job with more $$$ /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif then when the project is over we've gotta drag up) I would cut down trees on the side ..U know ...the ones over the back porch, garage,electrical , phone & cable, services...and sometimes even primary power /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif so when u git the tree down on the ground it's gotta go somewhere right... usually the dump unless hardwood of course.....so the cut up chunks of wood go in the back of the pickup and the brush goes in my utility trailer that is 5' x10' and has 4' high sides...now most may think that u con't git much brush in something like tht but there's a great trick to it...I lay an old piece of riding/climbing rope in the bottom that is tied into an oblong circle witn the two ends draping over the front of the trailer and the other end over the heavy duty 3/4" plywood tailgate...next 4' pieces of libs are laid onto the rope ever 2' or so going crossways with the trailer...fill her ;up to the top and then jump in with the big csaw and cut her down to the almost bottom every 1' or so= a bunch o short pieces that settle neatly..dont try this with a metal bottomed or sided trailer niless very careful /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
u can literally fill this thing doing this about 7 or 8 x...go to the dump and look for the heaviest thing in the wood dumping area...I've tied to huge cement blocks wrapped my 3/4 " nylon bull line round huge piles of brush and even round a big pile of shingles b4 /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...all the other guys who are pullin their brush are lookin at me with curiosity /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif i back the trailer as close as i can to bout 2' of my pullin area(so i can git the gate off) and take the 2 loops of the climbine and tie a working bowline (!!! if u cant tie a bowline and an inline working bowline then find an old lineman or a tree guy who will teach you as its the greates knot ever and even under the GREATEST LOADS it always comes undone...maybe i ought to have a knot tieing string /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) to the bull rope and put my truck in 4x4 low and start off in 2nd and give her <a href="mailto:h@@@">h@@@</a> /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif....out comes the whole load in one great big 5x10x5(i pile it high /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) rectangle bale..back upthe trailer to my climbing rope tie it (with a straight up bowline) and pull it out from under a couple thousand pounds of brush /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif wrap up yer ropes and put the tgate back on and smile and wave to the guys that are still unloading!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifc ya'll later i always say /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
now having said that ....i would have loved to have the$$ to have bought a dump trailer...and the punch line of the storyis this /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif One weekend i did an oak job and really loaded the trailer heavy (i have 8 ply tires by the way) and didn't make the dump withthe brush so it sat in the yard while it rained for a couple days...and at the time was using my ol toyota 4x4 for tree work...when we went to the dump i had one of my greenies drive as he hadn't learned his knots yet and i did all the rigging anyways because these bullropes are a couple of hundred bucks /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I git everything rigged and tell him to give her <a href="mailto:h@@@">pis@@@">pis@@@</a> us off and we decide to "drag up " early /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif or we heard af a job with more $$$ /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif then when the project is over we've gotta drag up) I would cut down trees on the side ..U know ...the ones over the back porch, garage,electrical , phone & cable, services...and sometimes even primary power /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif so when u git the tree down on the ground it's gotta go somewhere right... usually the dump unless hardwood of course.....so the cut up chunks of wood go in the back of the pickup and the brush goes in my utility trailer that is 5' x10' and has 4' high sides...now most may think that u con't git much brush in something like tht but there's a great trick to it...I lay an old piece of riding/climbing rope in the bottom that is tied into an oblong circle witn the two ends draping over the front of the trailer and the other end over the heavy duty 3/4" plywood tailgate...next 4' pieces of libs are laid onto the rope ever 2' or so going crossways with the trailer...fill her ;up to the top and then jump in with the big csaw and cut her down to the almost bottom every 1' or so= a bunch o short pieces that settle neatly..dont try this with a metal bottomed or sided trailer niless very careful /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
u can literally fill this thing doing this about 7 or 8 x...go to the dump and look for the heaviest thing in the wood dumping area...I've tied to huge cement blocks wrapped my 3/4 " nylon bull line round huge piles of brush and even round a big pile of shingles b4 /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...all the other guys who are pullin their brush are lookin at me with curiosity /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif i back the trailer as close as i can to bout 2' of my pullin area(so i can git the gate off) and take the 2 loops of the climbine and tie a working bowline (!!! if u cant tie a bowline and an inline working bowline then find an old lineman or a tree guy who will teach you as its the greates knot ever and even under the GREATEST LOADS it always comes undone...maybe i ought to have a knot tieing string /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) to the bull rope and put my truck in 4x4 low and start off in 2nd and give her <a href="mailto:h@@@">h@@@</a> /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif....out comes the whole load in one great big 5x10x5(i pile it high /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) rectangle bale..back upthe trailer to my climbing rope tie it (with a straight up bowline) and pull it out from under a couple thousand pounds of brush /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif wrap up yer ropes and put the tgate back on and smile and wave to the guys that are still unloading!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifc ya'll later i always say /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
now having said that ....i would have loved to have the$$ to have bought a dump trailer...and the punch line of the storyis this /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif One weekend i did an oak job and really loaded the trailer heavy (i have 8 ply tires by the way) and didn't make the dump withthe brush so it sat in the yard while it rained for a couple days...and at the time was using my ol toyota 4x4 for tree work...when we went to the dump i had one of my greenies drive as he hadn't learned his knots yet and i did all the rigging anyways because these bullropes are a couple of hundred bucks /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I git everything rigged and tell him to give her <a href="mailto:h@@@</a> and away he goes..remember its been rainin (he has strict orders not to stop unless i yell) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif well away he goes in 4x4 low and 2nd gear with mud jist a slinging everywhere...the toyota aso had been emptied of her counter weight!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
(to the brim with huge chunks of pine very neatly stacked...really helps with the uno ....traction thing) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif anyway there goes mike helter skelter with the ropes jist a strainin..and then the load starts slidin out and one of the bottom logs must've kicked sideways as the soad seemed to stall...mikes still givin her hell!!!! Mud flyin everywhere and up comes the back end of the toy and down goes the back of the trailer...the muds still flyin from the front tires only as the backs are bout three feet in the air!!! the load slips and out it flies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWWWHHHHHAAAAMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DOWN COMES THE REAR END OF THE TRUCK AND FRONT OF THE TRAILER
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif AND GUESS WHAT
/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifTHERE GOES MIKE MUD JISTA FLYIN AND THE TRAILER JIST A BOUNCIN!!!!!!!! H e went bout a 100" and stopped and got out and and yelled back to me"Am I sposed to stop yet!"....God i almost pissed my self /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
i'm bout doin now too!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifjist remembrin!!! I wave him back and he git's out and says...WOW THAT WAS WILD!!!
CAN I DO THIS ALL THE TIME!!!!! I SURE LIKED that kid he... was my kinda guy!!!!

Anyway ...**** i've got tears in my eyes and can barely even see the key bord......in answer to your ???do dump trucks ever tip over???? do the 1 tons with dump bodies ever tip over??? 2 weeks ago when the town was giving me my free fill the youngest of our town guys was drivin the 1 ton dump and i had to run over and bang on his window ...his front end was bout to come off the ground!!!!! and told him he'd better set it down and open his dumpgate!!!! he looked at me with big eyes and asid OOOOPPPSSSS!!! I smiled and said " don't worry ..jist dont let it happen again cuz my tax dollars pay for that truck!!! he said cool dude ..i told him i'd hate to see him bout 8' in the air...and to damage our truck /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif That kid kinda reminds me of mike and myself too when i was first workin round heavy equip /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
so the answer ....not generally as long as your tailgate is open!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif and you load doesn't get stuck while trying to lift./dump.... do be careful if dumping while on a grade and if even on a slight grade .... i'd chock my wheels ....Happy dumpin /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

TODD
by the way /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gifthere was always weight in the back of the toy after that /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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   / Convert old pickup or buy dump trailer? (long) #12  
another pic of the utility trailer with a close up of the csaw marks on the walls /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif this trailer also doubles as a summer fall horse trailer.. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif(yes i have a real enclosed horse trailer too...BUT... on hot summer days the boys love stickin their heads round the sides of the trailer and my truck ( i can see them in the mirrors)and feelin the breeze of the rushin air on their faces and is quite agood laff when ji loadem up and ijts real hot out ...jist like a dog !!! they know they're goin for a ride and are so anxious to jump right in...hence the holes in the walls on the sides(for 2 horses ) and the hole in the middle (for one horse.. u oughta see the kids at the beach comea runnin to pet the horses in the open trailer and i'm always sure to bring a big bag of carrots so the kids can feede'm!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
TODD
wow guys sorry bout the blue print as i have no idea how i did that!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 

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Not all dump trailers are the same but I was at the dump today throwing stuff out of the back of my non- dump trailer when a couple of guys pulled up with a dumper. They had this thing loaded about six feet over the rails with construction trash, neatly stacked to get it all in. It was a tight, heavy load with lots of drywall scrap. The ram picked it up without straining and it didn't raise the back of the truck. He wouldn't have been able to pull up if it had. The axles on this trailer were mounted all the way to the rear of the frame so there wasn't the leverage action you would get if the axles were farther forward. This trailer had a pair of 7,000# axles and probably a five yard bed. I was jealous. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
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<font color="blue"> ...I was at the dump today throwing stuff out of the back of my non- dump trailer... </font>

That used to be me. But, I'm an old man, now. The last time I stood on the trailer throwing things off, it darned near killed me. Now, I load the trailer with the FEL, and press a button (actually, turn a key) when I'm at the dump. I watch the guys around me sweating their loads, and I can't quite suppress a giggle...

And, you're absolutely correct about pulling forward. It's pretty much essential when you have a big load.
 
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Pics of installing my dump bed.
This was the stock hinge mount! The way they had it made, it would come down and hit the frame so the bed wouldn't sit flat or level. It was very weak, the bed would rock around a lot.
 

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The new hinge and bracing.
 

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View of upper mount.
 

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View of lower mount
 

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With bed raised
 

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Last one...

View while building.
 

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