Cordless power tool Batteries

   / Cordless power tool Batteries #11  
Do your batteries keep a charge if the drill sits for a while? With my Ryobi 12v, if it sits with a charged battery for a few weeks, it seems to lose most of its charge. I wonder if the charge would last longer if the battery pack were removed from the drill?

Chuck
 
   / Cordless power tool Batteries #12  
Well Bird, I'm not going to say that I haven't done it that way too. But I do try to drain them as much as I can each time. I was told that by doing that, the battery will accept a greater charge than if it's already at 50%, or 40% or whatever level when you start recharging. So you can get it recharged closer to 100%. Don't ask me why this is, but I will admit that it seems to work that way.
 
   / Cordless power tool Batteries #13  
My Ryobi 12volt lasted 2.8 years. Great drill for the price $59.

Golfgar4 --you are correct. As I was tought with my electric heli never store batteries charged! ..bad move. It uses Nickel metal hydride (NiMH ) and Li-Poly cells that are very powerful (over 40 amps). If you store changed, it will shorten there life, called memory effect and will reduce the capacity of the cells.
 
   / Cordless power tool Batteries #14  
Garry, I've heard both ways; best to store them discharged and best to store them charged, and quite frankly, I don't know what's best. Goodness only knows how old this drill is. It belonged to a good friend and neighbor who died about 3 years ago, and his widow insisted that I take it. It appeared to be like new, but the battery was dead and would not charge. So I bought a new battery, it worked OK, so I bought a second battery and it's seen a lot of use in the past 2 years. I do remove the battery from the tool and put everything back in the storage case after each use.
 
   / Cordless power tool Batteries #15  
I've heard recently that Dewalt is selling 18v NiMh batteries in Europe instead of the NiCd's. I'd like to get some of those, as my NiCds are getting weak too. Does anyone know if they're planning on selling NiMh in the US soon?
 
   / Cordless power tool Batteries #17  
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Good question Bird. The answer I found in the electronics industry is:
It is best to store the batteries with some juice still left in them. Batteries left to sit on the shelf with little to no charge in them can reverse polarity. [For occasional use batteries] reverse polarity is the primary cause of dead cordless batteries. Once one cell in a chain reverses polarity and goes bad, it effectively makes the whole battery bad.

If you use a NiCad battery a little bit and recharge it, and do this a lot, it will soon turn into a battery that will only support short term use. NiCads will develop a memory of partial discharge and "remember" the recharge state as the low point if done repetetively.

NiMH batteries don't develop memory like NiCads. So they can be partially discharged and plugged back in without having to go through a full cycle. Well, in theory anyway, I still full cycle my NiMH batteries just to be sure.

For my Makita 9.6V tools I have two batteries. I run one to exhaustion and immediately drop it into the charger, taking the one out of the charger and use it until exhaustion. When finished with the project, I test the last battery in use in the drill. Grasp the chuck and try to run the drill, If I can keep the drill from turning, I pull that battery for a charge. Otherwise, I just leave it in the drill. Using this technique I get several years use out of my batteries.
 
   / Cordless power tool Batteries #18  
If you look on ebay you will find lots of brand spanking new batteries for 1/2 off what they charge in the store. Ive ordered a few batteries off there that were brand new and saved a ton of cash.

To extend battery life take the batteries and store them in you closet not in your garage or truck.

good luck
 
   / Cordless power tool Batteries #19  
Can you use the same charger for NiMh batteries that you use for NiCd?
 
   / Cordless power tool Batteries #20  
No memory for NiMH? That is weird. I have a $600 9 channel controller for my heli and it tells you do do certain things for its NiMH pack. One is discharging when not flying.

Same with my 8-minute NiMH $250 pack (Gold Peak cells) and my (TANIC 10S3P) li-poly $800 pack for 17 minutes. That is why they have chargers that discharge in this hobby. Also all the cells I have gotten say to run through a complete cycle of the cells when not being used to keep them "up to snuff".

Maybe with these "cheaper" packs you are fine, but I know when I am 200+ feet in the air I want to know I get 17 minutes of a battery capacity and not 15.5 minutes. ..which HAS happened.

Yes you can use the same charger for NiMh & NiCd? But no on li-poly cells. The current in mah is around the same.
 

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