Cordless Tools vs. Other Options

   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #81  
I went to 20V adapters as soon as I could get them. You can get 2 20V lithium batteries and adapters from Amazon for the price of one 20v Dewalt battery. I have adapted all my 18V tools to 20V. I have 2 20V grinders one adapted to a chainsaw bar. It also has a chainsaw disc. I never would have dreamed I would be using cordless impact wrenches, but I have them from 3/8 to 3/4 and love them. all dewalt. they make a big impact with 900 ft lbs of torque. I still have the 1in drive air wrench and the other smaller ones, but most of the time the compressor only is used to blow out air filters and air up tires.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #82  
I bought a 20 volt dewalt drill and skill saw and several cheap knock off batteries which work as well as the brand name on Amazon. Once I got used to the 20 volt 5 and 6 amph batteries I was very unsatisfied with my 18 volt nicad sawsall. So I bought this on amazon for less than 20 bucks:


 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #83  
I've been using Makita 18V lithium-battery tools for 10-15 years, and couldn't be more pleased. In the shop, a drill sits with its battery attached for weeks at a time, and it's always ready to use when I grab it. I've never had a battery go flat between uses.

I have four batteries -- two of the old-style 3 amp-hour, and two of the new-style 5 amp-hour. Once charged, they sit on the shelf ready to swap-out on the drill when I deplete its battery, or on another tool.

My wife and I have done four major construction projects (large deck, tractor shed, solar power system, and observatory) using Makita 18V tools, and they performed admirably. The only shortcoming is the circular saw is wimpy. It doesn't "cut it" when I need to saw pressure-treated 2X lumber. OTOH, it did fine cutting Hardieplank siding with a diamond blade.

The new Makita 18V charger seems to be fairly "smart," and I'm comfortable leaving batteries (I have the dual charger) on it for long periods. But I do remove them and store them on the shelf when I notice they're charged.

Bottom line: I've had excellent performance from Makita 18V Li-ion batteries for 10-15 years. Even though all batteries self-discharge over time, mine almost always have plenty of charge when I start a project.

--- Mike
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #84  
Cordless tools are really expensive compared to corded. In my experience corded have significantly more power as well. A good generator is needed for any diy’er Or professional. My generator has a build in welder and it has enough power to run multiple tools at a work site. I can also use it as backup if the power fails in my home. Efficiency & cost drive my business as well as my personal life. The marketers will do anything to separate us from our currency. 😃
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #85  
I've had a Ridgid set of cordless tools that have Brushless motors with the Lithium Ion 18v 4.Ah batteries since 2017, they seem to last forever without re-charge. If I were advising anyone on cordless tools, I'd say make sure you get 18/20v (same thing really) LiIon batteries, name brand with brushless motors and you will be happy.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #86  
Lithium batteries do seem to run stronger and longer in addition to being lighter in weight than their NiCd or NiMH counterparts. The downside to me is that while in use there seems to be no slow down or tapering off of power when they run out. They transition instantly from good to dead. With the older batteries I knew when charge was getting low.

This is pretty much spot on. When lithium batteries are low on charge they don't slow down, the just stop.

BUT a lot of the newer batteries are starting to have gauges on them letting you know charge level.

For cordless I use Makita, and I've had batteries last over a year and still have plenty of charge in them.

My buddy has Milwaukee, while they have a longer warranty... he's actually had to use his warranty on his stuff quite a bite. My Makita stuff get dropped, used daily, occasionally ran over, and I haven't had a single tool fail yet. So cordless, I stick with Makita.

Funny enough, corded, I go with Milwaukee.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #87  
I totally get what you mean, that you don't want to be tied to a certain brand/make. There are some options for adapters;

If you end up getting an adapter or two, make sure as to NOT go with a cheap China knock off. They'll fry either your battery or your tool. Read ALL of the reviews for any that you consider getting.

FYI, I'm a DeWalt and Milwaukee owner.

There are still a few things to consider when shopping for cordless tools;

1. Weight.
This is a big one for me. Around the house, or if I'm doing something overhead, I don't need a heavy tool. So I have some Milwaukee M12 tools. When I'm outdoors away from a power source, I use my DeWalt 20v tools and take as many batteries with me as I think I'll need to get the job done.

The Milwaukee batteries rarely need charging up if they've been sitting for months. But I typically top one or two up when I'm planning on doing some around the house chores.

2. Volatge.
This is the next important thing to consider. The amount of voltage determines how much power your tool is going to have. My Milwaukee M12 impact driver CAN NOT compare to my DeWalt 20v impact driver. The DeWalt just has so much more torque than the Milwaukee.

Having said that, some tools are coming out with what's called "flexvolt". The tools can run off two different voltage batteries. One of note is the DeWalt 20/60 flexvolt. Bigger, heavier, more power and longer run time. They can run larger tools like yard tools (leaf blower, trimmer, edger, lawnmower, as well as table saw, etc....).

3. Amp Hours.
Another useful thing to consider. This will determine how long your tool will run. A 5ah battery will almost last double a 3ah battery. But the weight of the higher amp hours will be considerably greater.

4. Available tools.
This can vary considerably from manufacturers. Go to their website to see everything that they have available for a certain battery type. If they make everything you are looking for, then they're probably the preferred manufacturer. It all depends on what types of tools you're going to need.


For charging my batteries when I'm nowhere near a power source, I typically use a generator and charge as many as I can at once. I'll use all of my battery chargers and run my generator for a couple of hours. I've never tried using a Jackery or similar. A while back, I had read that charging batteries from batteries (ie. a Jackery) you loose a lot of the power. That's why I've always used a generator instead. I have no power out at the cabin, and that's typically where I'm doing lots of work that my cordless tools are needed.

Having said all of that, I do have an adaptor for my DeWalt 20v batteris that can charge up anything from a USB port. It charges my phone and tablet QUICKLY!!! Here's a link if you wanted to check it out;


My next tools are going to be the DeWalt Flexvolt yard tools. I'm getting sick and tired of having to clean the carburetors on my leaf blower and trimmer because all gas stations sell an ethanol blended gasoline that F*cks everything up.

Eventually I can see myself converting to a battery powered lawn mower....but they're still too new. The manufacturers need to work out the kinks with them. I see way too many of them being given away because the batteries have crapped out.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #88  
Also, Lithium-Ion batteries do not have as bad a memory phenomenon as Nicads.. So there usable life is usually longer..
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #89  
I have Makita. They have a flashlight that is so handy, I have 3, one in the garage, tin shed and house.

 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #90  
Voltage x Amps = power (Watts) so just voltage is meaningless.
Ability of a battery to deliver high current at a specified voltage is key.
Why cars batteries at only 12 volts can vaporize a wrench across the terminals.

Voltage = marketing and differentiation only in most cases.
Why most tools are on the 18-24 volt range now.
Higher voltage can help in design to lower current draw needed, this helps to make contacts smaller for higher power applications.

i=V/R - so higher the Voltage the less Resistance impacts current flow.
Note how the newer batteries have longer contacts in slots instead of the small bits of metal used in the older NiCad tools. Larger contact area =less resistance.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #91  
So I have a Dewalt 18V drill and like the flexibility. I don't like however that most of the time I use it both batteries are dead and need a re-charge. I do not do this work for a living and many times find myself just reaching for the corded and grabbing an extension cord. I am wondering if the newer stuff is any different in terms of holding charge or if you are still just always charging stuff all the time like a second job.

I hate the idea of being tied into battery make and therefore tool brand. Has anyone gone a different route and just bought a Jackery (or other) battery generator and still just used your tools? It seems like the batteries on those last a long time from experience. It could also be a dumb
idea. You can get one for the price of a few smaller batteries let alone the 60/80v stuff. Any you can take it camping on the weekend so it isnt' just for tools or use it to keep things going if the power goes out. Seems like it would be more versatile.

Most of the time I work, I'm near a plug so all of this is irrelevant.
I replaced my Dewalt 18 v with the new lighter 20 volt lithium wouldn’t go back. My son bought me a 1/2” Dewalt 20 volt 4ha impact wrench and I have put air impact and compressor away, I love not dragging air hose around.Now he bought me 12” Dewalt chain saw, love it perfect for me.my Brother starting selling 40v 16” Oregan Chain Saws, all these are great for us older people who because of age and body hurts can’t pull to start gas ones anymore.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #92  
I now have about a dozen different Ryobi 18v tools and 6 or 7 batteries. This is for my own farm and home use, not for a daily commercial trade. They work great, example, couldn't get along without the tire inflator, for implements and wagons. I am sold on the reliability of the system. I keep a couple batteries by the charger in my office.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #93  
So I have a Dewalt 18V drill and like the flexibility. I don't like however that most of the time I use it both batteries are dead and need a re-charge. I do not do this work for a living and many times find myself just reaching for the corded and grabbing an extension cord. I am wondering if the newer stuff is any different in terms of holding charge or if you are still just always charging stuff all the time like a second job.

I hate the idea of being tied into battery make and therefore tool brand. Has anyone gone a different route and just bought a Jackery (or other) battery generator and still just used your tools? It seems like the batteries on those last a long time from experience. It could also be a dumb
idea. You can get one for the price of a few smaller batteries let alone the 60/80v stuff. Any you can take it camping on the weekend so it isnt' just for tools or use it to keep things going if the power goes out. Seems like it would be more versatile.

Most of the time I work, I'm near a plug so all of this is irrelevant.
I found that Milwaukee to be the best battery tools…
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #94  
So I have a Dewalt 18V drill and like the flexibility. I don't like however that most of the time I use it both batteries are dead and need a re-charge. I do not do this work for a living and many times find myself just reaching for the corded and grabbing an extension cord. I am wondering if the newer stuff is any different in terms of holding charge or if you are still just always charging stuff all the time like a second job.

I hate the idea of being tied into battery make and therefore tool brand. Has anyone gone a different route and just bought a Jackery (or other) battery generator and still just used your tools? It seems like the batteries on those last a long time from experience. It could also be a dumb
idea. You can get one for the price of a few smaller batteries let alone the 60/80v stuff. Any you can take it camping on the weekend so it isnt' just for tools or use it to keep things going if the power goes out. Seems like it would be more versatile.

Most of the time I work, I'm near a plug so all of this is irrelevant.
A while back I added
So I have a Dewalt 18V drill and like the flexibility. I don't like however that most of the time I use it both batteries are dead and need a re-charge. I do not do this work for a living and many times find myself just reaching for the corded and grabbing an extension cord. I am wondering if the newer stuff is any different in terms of holding charge or if you are still just always charging stuff all the time like a second job.

I hate the idea of being tied into battery make and therefore tool brand. Has anyone gone a different route and just bought a Jackery (or other) battery generator and still just used your tools? It seems like the batteries on those last a long time from experience. It could also be a dumb
idea. You can get one for the price of a few smaller batteries let alone the 60/80v stuff. Any you can take it camping on the weekend so it isnt' just for tools or use it to keep things going if the power goes out. Seems like it would be more versatile.

Most of the time I work, I'm near a plug so all of this is irrelevant.
Most of the time I use a battery powered drill inside the house and plug powered drills outside when within easy reach of an outlet.

When doing work that would kill multiple batteries, far from an outlet, I power my drill with a discontinued, small, Harbor Freight 2-stroke generator. It looks similar to HF's present Tailgator generator in different paint. I'm not sure how the amperages compare. For heavier drills or saws I'd probably need a bigger generaror.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #95  
just plug in a drill to portable generator. these cordless junk tools dont last long enough to finish any job.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #97  
Hello!

I keep a variety of cordless drills - DeWalt is the only one I do not have. I prefer Ryobi - good batteries and tool - and there is usually a deal for extra batteries and/or chargers (18v), so I always have plenty of backups in multiple locations.

Hope this helps!
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #98  
I now have about a dozen different Ryobi 18v tools and 6 or 7 batteries. This is for my own farm and home use, not for a daily commercial trade. They work great, example, couldn't get along without the tire inflator, for implements and wagons. I am sold on the reliability of the system. I keep a couple batteries by the charger in my office.
I don't have quite that many, but do have maybe 7 or 8. Don't know how well they'd stand up to hard daily use, but for what I need they work just great. A big plus is that the current batteries are compatible with 15+ year old tools.

Funny, I probably would never have given them a second thought, but 10-12 years ago someone gave me a couple that didn't have batteries. When I discovered that the newer batteries fit the older tools, it was kind of a no brainer for future purchases.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #99  
I have a few cordless tools. When I go out into the field - load up my Honda generator and take corded tools. More power - no worries about battery run down.
 
   / Cordless Tools vs. Other Options #100  
Flashlight is pretty handy, especially in case of power outage.
Second that, I have 5 led flashlights and love them, makita (3), B&D and Ryobi. Standardized on Makita batteries and have adapters so the other two can run on the makita batteries. Also have an led headlamp thats usb powered (and makita usb adapter w beltclip).

Other tools I would recommend, sawzall, multitool, usb adapter.
 

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