Correct bolts for 3rd rear remote on NX series.

[Overtaxed]

Sigh.. What a mess. Been through 2 sets of bolts already and still don't have the 3rd rear remote installed. Looking at the Kioti literature, for the 3rd rear remote, they specify part number TE14-0015A as the correct part. Unfortunately, that part appears to be made out of unobtainum, no Kioti dealer anywhere can get it (they don't even have a record of the part existing, but I'm holding the install instructions for the remote in my hand where they specify that bolt). Anyway, went around to the local shops, it appears that the bolt is a shouldered M8-1.25 and I need about 180/190 mm length. I know there are some folks out there who did this on their NX, where in the heck did you get the bolts and what size were they? I saw a reference to an Arctic Cat part number but that appears to be an M10? I'm pretty certain my bolt is an M8, that's what it measured out at at Fastenall.

The kit I'm trying to install is the Kioti 2-3 kit, PN T5538-A04000112 (2->3 kit, detent). I just need to see the breakdown of the parts in that kit to get the PN for the bolts, I'm pretty sure my dealer ordered the 1-2 kit (which is identical except the bolts aren't as long).

Anyway, suggestions, please. Or, if someone would be so kind, the PN of the bolts they used/where they got them?

Thank you!

 

[RickB]

Sigh.. What a mess. Been through 2 sets of bolts already and still don't have the 3rd rear remote installed. Looking at the Kioti literature, for the 3rd rear remote, they specify part number TE14-0015A as the correct part. Unfortunately, that part appears to be made out of unobtainum, no Kioti dealer anywhere can get it (they don't even have a record of the part existing, but I'm holding the install instructions for the remote in my hand where they specify that bolt). Anyway, went around to the local shops, it appears that the bolt is a shouldered M8-1.25 and I need about 180/190 mm length. I know there are some folks out there who did this on their NX, where in the heck did you get the bolts and what size were they? I saw a reference to an Arctic Cat part number but that appears to be an M10? I'm pretty certain my bolt is an M8, that's what it measured out at at Fastenall.

The kit I'm trying to install is the Kioti 2-3 kit, PN T5538-A04000112 (2->3 kit, detent). I just need to see the breakdown of the parts in that kit to get the PN for the bolts, I'm pretty sure my dealer ordered the 1-2 kit (which is identical except the bolts aren't as long).

Anyway, suggestions, please. Or, if someone would be so kind, the PN of the bolts they used/where they got them?

Thank you!

When I worked for a Kioti dealer up in NY we had to size those bolts ourselves and source them. I believe they were 180 mm long (you can verify this yourself) and I am pretty certain we sourced them from Fastenal.

 

[Overtaxed]

When I worked for a Kioti dealer up in NY we had to size those bolts ourselves and source them. I believe they were 180 mm long (you can verify this yourself) and I am pretty certain we sourced them from Fastenal.

180mm sounds about right, I was going to get 190's, but I think 180 will do it. M8x1.25 seems to be the ticket. I'm sure Fastenal will have them, in fact, they'll probably have 100 varieties to choose from out of their catalog. Do you remember anything else? Did they have shoulders on the threads? What class of bolt? I keep reading they have to be "hardened" but HOW hardened?

This situation, BTW, is ridiculous. If Kioti doesn't want to sell the bolts, at least give us a PN to source from somewhere else!

 

[RickB]

180mm sounds about right, I was going to get 190's, but I think 180 will do it. M8x1.25 seems to be the ticket. I'm sure Fastenal will have them, in fact, they'll probably have 100 varieties to choose from out of their catalog. Do you remember anything else? Did they have shoulders on the threads? What class of bolt? I keep reading they have to be "hardened" but HOW hardened?

This situation, BTW, is ridiculous. If Kioti doesn't want to sell the bolts, at least give us a PN to source from somewhere else!

Just a standard bolt, no shoulder, standard thread / shank for the length. IIRC 8.8 was the only hardness we could get. Measure the length of the bolts supplied for the 2nd remote kit and add the thickness of the #3 valve slice to get the required bolt length. Measure underneath the head to the end.

 

[Overtaxed]

I'm going to give 180's a try, found these at HD, had to order them, but at least they have a great return policy. If these are the right bolts, I'll update this thread so that other people don't go nuts trying to figure it out. The guy in tractor supply told me "just retap it", and, well, I have to say, that's probably a good answer too. They have a ton of long bolts that would work there, just none in metric.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Crown-B...8-Metric-Hex-Bolt-1-Piece-Bag-03268/203539315

 

[Agvg]

What a ridiculous answer to give to people, retap a STD metric bolt.

 

[RickB]

What a ridiculous answer to give to people, retap a STD metric bolt.

Typical TSC idiot.

 

[perrypower]

Sigh.. What a mess. Been through 2 sets of bolts already and still don't have the 3rd rear remote installed. Looking at the Kioti literature, for the 3rd rear remote, they specify part number TE14-0015A as the correct part. Unfortunately, that part appears to be made out of unobtainum, no Kioti dealer anywhere can get it (they don't even have a record of the part existing, but I'm holding the install instructions for the remote in my hand where they specify that bolt). Anyway, went around to the local shops, it appears that the bolt is a shouldered M8-1.25 and I need about 180/190 mm length. I know there are some folks out there who did this on their NX, where in the heck did you get the bolts and what size were they? I saw a reference to an Arctic Cat part number but that appears to be an M10? I'm pretty certain my bolt is an M8, that's what it measured out at at Fastenall.

The kit I'm trying to install is the Kioti 2-3 kit, PN T5538-A04000112 (2->3 kit, detent). I just need to see the breakdown of the parts in that kit to get the PN for the bolts, I'm pretty sure my dealer ordered the 1-2 kit (which is identical except the bolts aren't as long).

Anyway, suggestions, please. Or, if someone would be so kind, the PN of the bolts they used/where they got them?

Thank you!

What is the "NXA" part number of the kit you are trying to install? This number is typically on a sticker on the outside of the box. It's possible that you have the incorrect kit for your tractor [based on your serial number]. Kioti made some changes in the way that these remotes mount - therefore, you need to order a serial number specific kit.

 

[Overtaxed]

What is the "NXA" part number of the kit you are trying to install? This number is typically on a sticker on the outside of the box. It's possible that you have the incorrect kit for your tractor [based on your serial number]. Kioti made some changes in the way that these remotes mount - therefore, you need to order a serial number specific kit.

I don't have the kit serial number, but I know it's wrong. The dealer could only get a 2nd function, not a 3rd, for whatever reason. So he ordered that and the bolts. The bolts they sent are PN 76KC-1019. The correct PN for the 3rd remote is TE14-0015A, however, nobody can look up or source (or even tell me what that part is). I have the packing list in my hand though from Kioti, and they clearly indicate that's the "right" bolt for the 3rd remote.

I've got the bolts ordered from HD, we'll see. I'm hoping they are right, but man, they are NOT easy to find. Pretty much going to have to order them, or retap the thread (LOL @ the typical TSC answer).

 

[AWSubie]

You’ve already found what you’re looking for but for future projects, Amazon and eBay are great places to find metric hardware.

 

[bbstacker1]

You can also try mcmaster.com, they have a huge selection of items.

 

[comancheflight]

I havent been on here in a long time but back in 2016 there was a thread on this subject with pictures - ( option for 3rd remote on NX?)

Here is a snip from it.

a third set of rear remotes can*easily*be added by the dealer now, when they install the first two. It is simply a*second*No. 2 kit, with the third kit stacked either on top or on the bottom. Longer bolts are necessary because of the additional thickness of the stack: 10-1.25 x 170mm, ideally grade 8.8 or better. Fastenal has them:*M1-1.25 x 17mm DIN 96 Class 1.9 Zinc Finish Hex Cap Screw | Fastenal

I heard, but didnt confirm, that Fastenal discontinued the bolt. I bought them back then one day and received them the next online.

 

[countrybumpkin]

The third valve is not available in the U.S. you have to order either a extra number one, or two , valve kit. The only difference when I installed mine was the color of the handle and the length of the mounting bolts. Fastenal was the only place I could find the correct length.

 

[Overtaxed]

All back together successfully. What a job. I wound up tearing it apart 3 times trying to get a bolt that would fit?! Crazy. But the new valve is in, works great, and no leaks.

This is the correct bolt:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Crown-B...ickid=wgKVr82ABxyJUuQxTV1LXQupUkgVKKVYET1VUo0

You need 3 of them.

Well, let me say, that bolt works. Is it correct? I really don't know. I'm not sure it's the right hardness, and it's not tapered like the OEM bolts, but you can get it in there if you stack all 3 valves and then put them on the tractor. It's a PITA. Have the dealer do it! But, yes, you can order the 2 "number 2" kits and 3 of these bolts and get it all to work. Because I just did.

 

[comancheflight]

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/369029-option-3rd-remote-nx-2.html

This is the post from a few years ago with pictures. Then it required 2 bolts.

 

[69raptor]

Michagan iron and equipment installed mine. Talk to bob he can help.

 

[NC419N]

I realize this Post is kind of old but my question is this.
Is anyone having any problems with the valve blocks leaking? That is the only question my dealer has with stacking 3 of them

 

[countrybumpkin]

I’ve not had a single leak. The tractors are available across the pond with three remotes just not here in the U.S.

 

[Threepoint]

I致e not had a single leak. The tractors are available across the pond with three remotes just not here in the U.S.

+1 on this. In 2016, when my 2014 NX4510 HST cab was in for a software update, I had my dealer add a 3rd remote by ordering a second No. 2 kit and stacking it with the longer bolts from Fastenal. No leaks at all from the remotes in 3-1/2 years.

 

[WoodDuck]

All back together successfully. What a job. I wound up tearing it apart 3 times trying to get a bolt that would fit?! Crazy. But the new valve is in, works great, and no leaks.

This is the correct bolt:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Crown-B...ickid=wgKVr82ABxyJUuQxTV1LXQupUkgVKKVYET1VUo0

You need 3 of them.

Well, let me say, that bolt works. Is it correct? I really don't know. I'm not sure it's the right hardness, and it's not tapered like the OEM bolts, but you can get it in there if you stack all 3 valves and then put them on the tractor. It's a PITA. Have the dealer do it! But, yes, you can order the 2 "number 2" kits and 3 of these bolts and get it all to work. Because I just did.

My 2nd rear function kit came with OEM butter-soft bolts. I was tightening the bolts with a 1/4" drive socket on a 6" long ratchet. I was tightening them in sequence until they were tight enough to switch to my torque wrench. Needless to say, I never got to the torque wrench. Heard a "pop" and the bolt spun free. I wasn't laying into the ratchet at all; just using my wrist and forearm. Took the whole stack off to find the one stud broken off in the tractor, and the other two had severely stretched threads. The sections of valve block were not even fully sandwiched together when this happened. No way it wouldn't have leaked if I had stopped wrenching sooner. Took out the garbage bolts, and started hunting for new bolts locally. Finally found them at Menard's in their little hardware trays in the bolt aisle. They only had 3 left in the bin, so I got lucky. These bolts torqued down fully like any other M8 bolt should. I took one of the junk OEM bolts to work to show my maintenance crew. They couldn't believe the damage to the bolt from a 1/4 drive short ratchet. Believe me, whatever grade bolt you got from HD is likely much higher quality than the ones that came in my Kioti kit!