County says no camping on your own land !!

   / County says no camping on your own land !! #101  
As much as I sympathize with the OP and his not being able to use his land as a campsite, I have to say that I understand the no camping regulation. I could spend one afternoon and probably have at least 50 photos of campsites that are a blight on the countryside. Heck, I could take pictures of four places on my own road that have junk and trash scattered about. One place not far from me has a crude hand-painted sign out front that says, "God and Fred Jones live here." Fred Jones is not the real name on it. I always tell my wife that God needs to clean up his half of that yard.:D The problem with so many of these places is that they are close to the road and an eyesore for everyone who drives up and down the road. One such place nearby is the first house on a short 1-mile road. That place is so trashy that it hurts the property values of everyone living on the road. If I was looking for a place to buy, I'd make a u-turn and as soon as I saw that place. There could be a palace just down the road, but I would not want to drive by the "dump" every day on my way home.

Let me be perfectly clear. Most places I see with campers are neat, clean, and places where really nice folks live. It's the few that mess it up for the many. . . nothing new there. So, I understand the OP's frustration and I know why counties put such rules into place. Even my county has rules against people living in filth and improper sanitation. The real problem is that the laws are not enforced where they should be enforced. Some of these folks have absolutely nothing and live on public assistance. It seems to me that the county can only enforce rules on people who have something to lose. Often, the very poor or those with mental problems are the ones left alone. One old lady who was a trash hoarder lived right on the main crossroad in Sunset, TX. She had an old trailer and maybe 5 campers surrounded by trash, bags and bags of trash. Her lot was two acres and joined the mayor's property on one side. That old woman lived in her filth until she passed away. Now, the lot has been cleaned off and somebody has llamas there. It changed the whole town's looks. I wish I knew the solution. If somebody put a camper on the property across the road from my place, I'd be really disappointed if the people did not seem to be economically secure and kept the place neat and clean.
 
   / County says no camping on your own land !! #103  
People should be allowed to live how they want on their own land, provided that they comply with water and waste regulations. So long as they do not have their hand out for "help" to maintain their lifestyle at taxpayer expense (like AC or heating fuel assistance while living in MN in a double wide trailer with walls 2" thick), who should care if they are living in a Tipi or not ?

One of the reasons for rising poverty is the cost of compliance with all of the codes that define minimum standards for housing + all the permit fees that go along with the codes and property tax. How are people on social security supposed to be able to live when one starts off with $400 in property tax per month, before anything else ? Many property foreclosures in my neighborhood are from people losing their homes due to unpaid property tax (there was no mortgage).

I can understand that in dense subdivisions with small parcels, some sort of "consistency" to the quality of housing is needed, but I spent 2 weeks in Colorado in a county with a population density of 5 people per square mile, and there is only a single subdivision/ranch which does not impose time limits and minimum home size/architectural committee BS on potential landowners. In my opinion, in a situation with a min 35acre lot size, this is not what people are expecting from the relatively unpopulated western US. It seems that the agenda 21 cool aid is a lot more widespread than many would think.
 
   / County says no camping on your own land !! #104  
For some of you you need to learn the Bill of Rights, (the first 10 amendments) particularly #4 in this case

4th Amendment reads next run on sentence.

" The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "

So for them to come onto the OPs property they HAVE TO HAVE A WARRANT with SPECIFICS of what is to be searched or seized and what crimes they believe to have been broken are what is needed "need Probable Cause and Oath or Affirmations"

I would post a BIG SIGN with the 4th amendment on it and NO TRESPASSING probably some law says you can only have certain size sign placed out of specific materials etc... That is what you get when you ELECT mostly all LAWYERS into office.

What is disturbing is how LITTLE most people seem to know about their own rights. BTW the STATES can NOT infringe on ANY of the rights under the Constitution they can only EXPAND THEM.

Mark
 
   / County says no camping on your own land !! #105  
They will say the 4th only protects you from unreasonable searches.

Bruce
 
   / County says no camping on your own land !! #107  
For some of you you need to learn the Bill of Rights, (the first 10 amendments) particularly #4 in this case

4th Amendment reads next run on sentence.

" The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "

So for them to come onto the OPs property they HAVE TO HAVE A WARRANT with SPECIFICS of what is to be searched or seized and what crimes they believe to have been broken are what is needed "need Probable Cause and Oath or Affirmations"

I would post a BIG SIGN with the 4th amendment on it and NO TRESPASSING probably some law says you can only have certain size sign placed out of specific materials etc... That is what you get when you ELECT mostly all LAWYERS into office.

What is disturbing is how LITTLE most people seem to know about their own rights. BTW the STATES can NOT infringe on ANY of the rights under the Constitution they can only EXPAND THEM.

Mark
No, no, no... :rolleyes:
 
   / County says no camping on your own land !! #109  
Yep, that bastion of personal freedoms, Oregon, the Little California up the coast. They wish Pelosi was their very own!

From what I can tell, Oregon is where you go when California gets too conservative for you.

As for Texas, TEXAS Tan Line.png
 
   / County says no camping on your own land !! #110  
I live in a conservative part of a very liberal state, please enjoy Oregon and keep your people control for yourselves.
 

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