Thanks Wakey and Eddie! I spent way too much time making sure those benches went in the ground perfect, able to stand the test of time...and rowdy teenagers. Had cedar shipped on one of our trucks from the West Coast, poured concrete and 3 foot deep footers, ensured all of the compound angles were cut at 16.5 and 45 degrees and when it was all done, noticed the spacing on the posts for support were off by 2 inches left to right. Threw stain on it and called it done lol! My sons are the only ones that know and they aren't talking!