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Coyote hunter experts???
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I've been here 40 years now, and I can say with 100% certainly that years ago we had pheasant, quail, rabbits, turkey, many deer, etc. Also years ago we never ever saw or heard coyote.
Now it's the opposite.
I'm certainly no expert, but walking around the place I see where a kill took place, and lots of coyote.
Along the creek there's soft, sandy soil and I used to see a variety of tracks...now all you see are coyote tracks.
Now it's the opposite.
I'm certainly no expert, but walking around the place I see where a kill took place, and lots of coyote.
Along the creek there's soft, sandy soil and I used to see a variety of tracks...now all you see are coyote tracks.
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If coyotes are a problem, the most effective way to deal with them is a good fence. Adding electricity to it makes it just about perfect.
Before I put three rows of hot wire around my front pasture, I was loosing ducks, chickens and guineas almost daily. We lock up everything at night, so the coyotes just started hunting during the day. One day when my wife was home, she saw two of them killing our ducks, one after another. I think we lost 6 ducks before she shot one of them. We found dead ducks before, so it was nice to actually get one of the killers. Coyotes will kill for fun and just take one to eat, and leave the others behind.
My most effective method for hunting them is to shoot a hog and after removing the hams and back straps, I hammer a couple lengths of rebar through it in the middle of my pasture that I can see from my house. Once the buzzards show up in a day or two, the coyotes will follow. I've seen as many as 3 coyotes, but the best that I've been able to do is get two of them, one right after the other. Usually I'm happy if I get one in three days. A few times I've gotten one, and then the next day, gotten another.
I've done some calling and it's been both great, and a waste of time. I had a cassette that me and a buddy played in a boom box that was very effective. We would put it out in the middle of the field, hide along the tree line and just wait. Usually one would show up in ten minutes. If nothing showed up in half an hour, we moved off to another area. We got dozens of them doing this over several months, and two bobcats on his place in CA.
My neighbor bought one of those callers from Cabelas and he says it works great, but I've never seen any results from him using it. He sends me pics of hogs that he shoots, and I've seen him out hunting hogs fairly often, but never seen him with a coyote. I've thought about buying one, but really don't care to spend the time out hunting them. Easier to just shoot a hog and watch the carcass.
I have noticed more deer on my land with the more coyotes that I've taken. They are still all over the place and it's a hopeless battle to try to reduce their numbers to any measurable amount. My ultimate goal is to fence in my entire property line so no coyote or hog can get in. Since they both dig under fences, and coyotes are pretty good at climbing fences, my fence will have several lines of hot wire to discourage this.
I've seen multiple tracks where coyotes have hit the wire on my pasture and dug into the dirt to get away. One day my wife and I where having coffee on the porch and heard a coyote screaming after hitting the hot wire. It sounded like it was dying!!!! I never saw it, we just heard it yelping as it ran away.
Before I put three rows of hot wire around my front pasture, I was loosing ducks, chickens and guineas almost daily. We lock up everything at night, so the coyotes just started hunting during the day. One day when my wife was home, she saw two of them killing our ducks, one after another. I think we lost 6 ducks before she shot one of them. We found dead ducks before, so it was nice to actually get one of the killers. Coyotes will kill for fun and just take one to eat, and leave the others behind.
My most effective method for hunting them is to shoot a hog and after removing the hams and back straps, I hammer a couple lengths of rebar through it in the middle of my pasture that I can see from my house. Once the buzzards show up in a day or two, the coyotes will follow. I've seen as many as 3 coyotes, but the best that I've been able to do is get two of them, one right after the other. Usually I'm happy if I get one in three days. A few times I've gotten one, and then the next day, gotten another.
I've done some calling and it's been both great, and a waste of time. I had a cassette that me and a buddy played in a boom box that was very effective. We would put it out in the middle of the field, hide along the tree line and just wait. Usually one would show up in ten minutes. If nothing showed up in half an hour, we moved off to another area. We got dozens of them doing this over several months, and two bobcats on his place in CA.
My neighbor bought one of those callers from Cabelas and he says it works great, but I've never seen any results from him using it. He sends me pics of hogs that he shoots, and I've seen him out hunting hogs fairly often, but never seen him with a coyote. I've thought about buying one, but really don't care to spend the time out hunting them. Easier to just shoot a hog and watch the carcass.
I have noticed more deer on my land with the more coyotes that I've taken. They are still all over the place and it's a hopeless battle to try to reduce their numbers to any measurable amount. My ultimate goal is to fence in my entire property line so no coyote or hog can get in. Since they both dig under fences, and coyotes are pretty good at climbing fences, my fence will have several lines of hot wire to discourage this.
I've seen multiple tracks where coyotes have hit the wire on my pasture and dug into the dirt to get away. One day my wife and I where having coffee on the porch and heard a coyote screaming after hitting the hot wire. It sounded like it was dying!!!! I never saw it, we just heard it yelping as it ran away.
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There are curently record deer and turkey numbers in VA.
Clarkson: Deer populations abound, but number of hunters continues to decline | OUTDOORS COLUMNIST TEE CLARKSON | richmond.com
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From that same article....
"Virginia deer hunters have one of the highest success rates in the U.S., with 60 percent harvesting deer.
Of the 40 percent who do not, most do so by choice, passing on deer they could have killed, not because they didn’t have the opportunity,"
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Deer populations are up in Wisconsin, too....
https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/WildlifeHabitat/documents/reports/wtaildeerpop2.pdf
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Mine are smarter than I am....
The super cheap 50 cents a can cat food from WM that stinks to high Heaven.....they will smell that stuff from far away and come get it. So I kept feeding them in same spot every few days & noting times on game camera when they liked to show up. SO then I'd set up down wind and wait. and wait. and wait. Finally say screw it & leave. Check camera next day & coyotes were there eating the cat food about 30 min after I left.
Happened several times & I gave up. They win
I'm seeing fewer deer and almost no turkeys. 5+ yrs ago, every time I'd go to my place there would be 30 turkey roaming about. Game games showed them there in large groups and often through the day. Never a coyote. Now I get pics of coyotes but rarely a turkey. I know groups of turkeys sort of change where they like to hang out over time but I went from lots of them year after year, to none - or occasionally see 1-2. I don't see lots of ACME packaging laying around, so I can't prove it's the coyotes getting the turkeys, but coincidental enough to reason. No coyotes = turkey, coyotes = no turkeys.
The super cheap 50 cents a can cat food from WM that stinks to high Heaven.....they will smell that stuff from far away and come get it. So I kept feeding them in same spot every few days & noting times on game camera when they liked to show up. SO then I'd set up down wind and wait. and wait. and wait. Finally say screw it & leave. Check camera next day & coyotes were there eating the cat food about 30 min after I left.
Happened several times & I gave up. They win
I'm seeing fewer deer and almost no turkeys. 5+ yrs ago, every time I'd go to my place there would be 30 turkey roaming about. Game games showed them there in large groups and often through the day. Never a coyote. Now I get pics of coyotes but rarely a turkey. I know groups of turkeys sort of change where they like to hang out over time but I went from lots of them year after year, to none - or occasionally see 1-2. I don't see lots of ACME packaging laying around, so I can't prove it's the coyotes getting the turkeys, but coincidental enough to reason. No coyotes = turkey, coyotes = no turkeys.
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Mine are smarter than I am....
The super cheap 50 cents a can cat food from WM that stinks to high Heaven.....they will smell that stuff from far away and come get it. So I kept feeding them in same spot every few days & noting times on game camera when they liked to show up. SO then I'd set up down wind and wait. and wait. and wait. Finally say screw it & leave. Check camera next day & coyotes were there eating the cat food about 30 min after I left.
Happened several times & I gave up. They win
I'm seeing fewer deer and almost no turkeys. 5+ yrs ago, every time I'd go to my place there would be 30 turkey roaming about. Game games showed them there in large groups and often through the day. Never a coyote. Now I get pics of coyotes but rarely a turkey. I know groups of turkeys sort of change where they like to hang out over time but I went from lots of them year after year, to none - or occasionally see 1-2. I don't see lots of ACME packaging laying around, so I can't prove it's the coyotes getting the turkeys, but coincidental enough to reason. No coyotes = turkey, coyotes = no turkeys.
Here's some interesting reading about your NC turkey program.
Wild Turkey
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Deer hunting in Wisconsin is a multi-million dollar business...license sales (which combined with Robertson-Pitman excise taxes on hunting/fishing gear funds a large chunk of our overall outdoor recreational activities), motels/bars/restaurants etc. The DNR is always fiddling with how best to manage the herd to maintain that golden goose. Population goes up and down for a number of reasons but right now we are seeing the results of a few "normal" winters (it is Wisconsin...mother nature can deal a bad hand here) and an overall lower hunter harvest compared to the peak years.
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Yes, but the fact remains that coyotes are not decimating the deer population in Wisconsin.