Coyote hunter experts???

   / Coyote hunter experts??? #81  
I've watched a coyote stand stalk still - listening I would guess. Then they make a mad jump at the snow and catch a mouse. I've never seen the classic hunting technique. Jump up and come straight down. I'm surprised a coyote can hear/feel a mouse thru a foot of snow.

I get a pair of river otters come thru every spring. They will stop at the lake for a week or so. Fishing, catching, eating bass. And when not doing this - sliding down a bobsled run they make. Down the steep slope and out onto the lake ice.

The otters will catch several bass and throw them out on the ice. Then have a relaxing meal. I've watched a bald eagle swoop down and try to rob a bass from their stash. Seldom works - the river otter are big and cunning. Apparently they see the eagle flying around and know what he is up to.

My dog does the jump on a mouse technique. I think that's milleniums old.
 
   / Coyote hunter experts??? #82  
How much livestock do you lose each year to coyotes?

The first few years I was here I lost 40 chickens, my brother that lives 5 miles away lost many over the years. You seem to be against managing coyote's, that's fine but like I said in another post, People that aren't impacted by them are quick to say there is no reason to manage them. There isn't much point in going over and over this subject, just because you don't have a problem with them doesn't mean others don't.
 
   / Coyote hunter experts??? #83  
My dog does the jump on a mouse technique. I think that's milleniums old.

Saw a hawk in a tree. Very still. Wasn’t sure it wasn’t just an unusual part of the tree it was in until I saw it turn it’s head just slightly. Then it swooped out of the tree onto the ground in a nearby high spot. It stood there motionless for a few minutes until it just hopped a little and picked up a snake an flew back up in to the tree.
 
   / Coyote hunter experts??? #84  
Surprisingly, I have seen the Coyotes sort of work together with hawks. Coyotes will flush out mice and rodents, and then hawks swoop in for the kill, with no apparent resistance by the Coyotes. Interesting synergy going on between the local wildlife.

The opposite is also true. Coyotes look for the birds circling and then go there to find the kill. They are very curious and aware of their surroundings.

Here's a pic of one displaying the hunting technique previously mentioned:
 

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   / Coyote hunter experts??? #85  
When my wife and I moved out of the city, our first coyote encounter was in our own back yard. It was a nice sunny day, and he was just basking, like he didn’t have a care in the world.

I didn’t have anything against coyotes, but we had a couple of cats that went out some during the day, and its behavior didn’t seem normal to me. So I walked out on our back porch to scare him off. I clapped my hands, waved my arms, yelled, and jumped up and down. His response was not aggressive, but he didn’t respond at all. It was as if my presence was completely insignificant.

Amazingly enough, I didn’t own a firearm at that time. The closest thing I had was a Daisy Red Rider BB gun that I received as a gag gift. I got the gun and walked outside and started to cock it. In doing so, the BBs rolled around inside it and made a rather distinctive sound.

He must have gotten pinged with a BB gun before, because THAT sound was significant to him. He took off like a shot, and I never saw him again. Based on his behavior, I suspect he got shot by one of the other neighbors.
 
   / Coyote hunter experts??? #86  
Years ago a hunting buddy and I were hunting deer in a blinding snowstorm. We decided to give up and were heading back to the truck...he had a coyote stalking him from about 50 feet. At that distance all 5 shots from the 12ga. went high. More recently another friend and I were hunting turkeys from a blind. A few hundred yards away a few deer were observed crossing a field. Minutes later 2 coyotes emerged following the exact same path. The deer made a wide arc (probably 1 mile total) and emerged on our other side. The coyotes were right behind them.

You might be right that this is stalking, but it's just as likely that it wasn't. When you consider that no attacks were made and that coyotes are extremely intelligent, curious and cautious, it's likely they were just watching or following to see what's up. Stalking seems more like what lions do, where they are totally stealth, then come out of nowhere for the kill.
 
   / Coyote hunter experts??? #87  
The first few years I was here I lost 40 chickens, my brother that lives 5 miles away lost many over the years. You seem to be against managing coyote's, that's fine but like I said in another post, People that aren't impacted by them are quick to say there is no reason to manage them. There isn't much point in going over and over this subject, just because you don't have a problem with them doesn't mean others don't.

I stand corrected. No wait. Maybe not. I said earlier that sheep/ goats were defenseless. I stand by that in regards to dour legged animals. I stand by that.

Right by them are chickens. A house cat can kill chickens.

My neighbor has free range chickens. It's a buffet for coyotes and fox. I used to run them off when I saw them. Not anymore. If they continue to allow them to be targets, who am I to argue. After all, I enjoy a tasty chicken. :)
 
   / Coyote hunter experts??? #88  
If someone has free range chickens around here, they have a very short supply of chicken and eggs..
 
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#89  
Amazing. I'm the OP, and if you look back this posting has made an 180 degree turn!
I haven't shot one yet.
As I said so many animals we used to have are no longer seen.
One example are owls. We used to have lots of them, and a variety. Owls are great! But no more. I'm no expert but if coyotes move in and eat everything then not only do you lose those animals but owls also.
I did put up hunter cameras to see what goes on off in the distance.
 
   / Coyote hunter experts??? #90  
I live in a tiny town next to Canada with a population of 304 at the moment. I have moose, bear, lynx, martin, fisher cats, weasels, mink lots of predators, most of which are controlled with hunting seasons and trapping seasons. The most problem critter we have are fisher cats, they get into a chicken coop or whatever you have during the day and you can bet every animal that's in there will be dead, they will beat the tar out of a coyote.. Nothing can get at our animals at night. Fisher cats have taken just as many as other critters over the years and when I see one hanging around I trap it.

I went to the hardware store and the fuel station to buy a supply of diesel fuel one day around noon time about two years ago in winter, I was gone three hours, 24 meat chickens were strewn about the yard, I was baffled that they didn't take a few and run off with them, nope, they killed them all and took a few. What I did find was many sets of coyote tracks in the snow. So every time I leave I put everything away otherwise there will be nothing left when I return.

My German Shepherd alerts me when something is around. Coyotes won't come near the place when he is outside, they don't want to chance getting hurt and unable to hunt. He goes everywhere with me, I was thinking of getting another one that would stay at home when I wasn't there but no doubt the second dog would be riding with the other in the back seat instead and I would have another dog to feed so that's out..
 

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