Coyote hunting techniques

EastTexFrank · Mar 1, 2005

My wife was watching the Westminster Dog Show and told me that they were starting to breed non-allergenic dogs. She said there were 3 different "models". One was a cross between a lab and a poodle called a Labradoodle. She said it was a beautiful looking dog, personally I can't imagine it. There are breeds that don't shed, like the poodle and the Scottish Deer Hound that my son has.

Coyotes will attack and kill dogs. I saw 2 of them attack my S-I-L's standard poodle at the farm and that's a pretty big dog ... not heavy but tall. Also, there's also a guy near here that let his 2 Dobermans out to chase coyotes, only one came back and it was all torn up. That dog used to run and hide every night when the coyotes started howling.

I'll pop one given the opportunity but they are real wary around here. At the farm they are a bit more brazen. I mainly use a scoped .243 BAR because that's what I have with me most of the time but just about anything will do. They don't take a whole lot of killing. Now a couger .... There have been a couple of shows on TV lately about cougers attacking people, especially out west. If I had a 3-year old son, I think I'd be very, very careful.

Varmintmist · Mar 1, 2005

( Varmintmist,

A little off subject but for dogs, I like a Husky/Shepard mix. Nothing against any dogs that others have but in my book dogs need to be around 100#.

I'll dig through past posts to find out about "Invisible Fence" to keep it in. The one neighbor has some really expensive bird dogs and I'd hate to have mine eat his.

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Invisible fence and Husky, BWAHAHAHAAHA. Ever have a sled dog? I did.

The terrier was suggested because of non allergy producing propertys. I hate ankle biters to, but for the wife.....

bczoom · Mar 2, 2005

Varmintmist,

Yep. I had a Siberian Husky/Shepard and a Samoyed/Shepard. They were tough to keep in. Split rail with 4' welded wire and an electric fence inside that was what I needed.
Still undecided on a breed but it will be big and will need to be contained.

Brian

PBinWA · Mar 2, 2005

"Invisible fence and Husky"

You'd have to shave it's neck bald or get electrical contacts that are 6 inches long.

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bczoom · Mar 2, 2005

( "Invisible fence and Husky"

You'd have to shave it's neck bald or get electrical contacts that are 6 inches long. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )

Won't that be true of most long/thick haired dogs? Although I like the shepard/husky mix, I'm not stuck on that particular breed. A boarder collie or something else may be a good option as well.

BubbaJr · Mar 2, 2005

Around here there are quite a few guys that use coon hound type dogs (not sure what breed they are, but they look like coon hounds). They will hunt in packs of 3 or 4 dogs for coyotes. They are outfitted with radio transmitter collars, and the guys have direction seeking antennas on the roofs of their trucks. They turn the dogs loose, and sit in their trucks tracking the dogs, and when they hear the dogs raise a ruckus they track down the dogs and usually get there in time to see the coyote breathe it's last breath. These dogs are very single minded when they find the scent. I've seen them scare up deer, and other smaller varmints, but they ignore them and continue sniffing the trail.

I have had the dogs come through my place several times in the last several years chasing coyotes, but I don't see them much anymore, nor have I seen or heard a coyote in the last 6 months. I guess it must be effective.

Two weeks ago I saw one of the dogs running around my property with about a 10' chain dragging behind him. I tried to call him so I could get him returned to his owner, but he ignored me and continued his quest. I hope he found his way home. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Westonium · Mar 2, 2005

Jack Russell Terriers have a lot more fight in them than I think some of you give credit. My neighbor had 2 - one male, one female (interesting note - he lived in Karen Carpenter's old ranch)

The female got snagged from behind by a running coyote, but managed to struggle free while the male came zipping in. 2 more coyotes joined into the fray making it 3 full-grown coyotes vs. 1 male jack terrier. The melee continued in a tumble up and over a steep hill and it made shooting the coyotes impossible without hitting the dog. The dog was gone 3 hours and he wrote the dog off as dead. Dog comes trotting in without a single bleeding scratch.

A year later, the dog was killed by an owl that punctured both lungs at once - what an irreverent death for such a fighter.

These jack terriers were just pets - but they have serious fight. All the "best coyote hunting dog" lists I've seen include them specifically.

Sometimes big dogs = big meal for a pack. In Temecula, in 2002, there was a pack of 12-20 that was going over people's 6 foot fences and taking out the big dogs and eating them right then and there like pirahna. Warden had to send out a marksman to take out that pack.

If you have a PACK of them - I would call the warden. He can authorize things that are typically illegal in many states including steel leg traps etc. If trapping isn't optimal, he may have a hired gun come out. They will use a silenced sniper rifle with an insanely expensive scope rig, and a remote call box (often just a boombox).

Jack terriers are extremely ferrocious if provoked - so training is important. I'd rather fight the biggest, meanest german shephard, rott, husky than 3 little 18 pound jack terriers any day.

Taylortractornut · Mar 2, 2005

Eddie I mentioned the owl crapped and I came awful close. Ive seen that some times owls hear a noise and can pin point it from the sound and strike. Ive seen the grab rats out of dense sage grass and serecia grass before this way.
Ive raised a few orphaned coyotes for training coyote track dogs. The worst thing on a coyotes is a female mule or a donkey. The female mule is sterile and will addopt anything smaller than it except a dog. When coyotes got bad here dad had one in a goat pen and we ve found a few dead coyotes with crushed skulls. We had a fellow here poisoning meat and carcasses andd after a few coyotes died they wouldnt eat bait like that. either poison a snared rabbit, and let it getthere attension or shoot them. They even learned to leave at the sound of a truck slowing down. They learn quickly, Ive seen them that only wait near the road on a highway or chase rabbits to and fro across the highway and usually let the cars do the work. When times gettight they eat sweet corn and watermelons to.

1962 · Mar 3, 2005

another good coyote killing dog is a pit bull.. a few pit bulls is even better yet... anyone who has ever witnessed pit bulls and coyotes in very close proximity can attest(no details). the coyotes seem a little larger here than some i have seen out west... but far fewer here in western pa. .223 handloads with nosler ballistic tips and a scoped AR-15 is a great set-up for these pests... even if ya just wound em, well thats what the dogs are for.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bird · Mar 3, 2005

( When times gettight they eat sweet corn and watermelons to. )

I think most of us usually only think of coyotes as being carnivorous, but from the early '50s I remember a local newspaper story in a small town in Oklahoma warning kids against stealing watermelons, but also said that if you do steal one from the field, be sure it's attached to the vine because some farmers pulled watermelons off the vine, injected them with poison, and left them in the field for coyotes.