COYOTES

[cqaigy2]

Good housekeeping practices minimize the risks to horses.

That sounds familiar. My dad was a veterinarian and he was always telling horse owners they could dramatically reduce health issues by practicing better hygiene. Keep manure picked up, cleaning the utensils used to handle food and water, and keeping the containers clean. Good animal husbandry.

He was usually talking to what he would call the "week-end" horse owners. I was kinda young at the time and wasn't sure what he meant, but i did know i liked the weekends because there were cartoons on Saturday and Sunday was Disney.

 

[cqaigy2]

Well - poo. Over a month and still no airplane - no shooter. I have later found out that this "operation" has little to do with the government. The "operation" has the approval of the government. It's a local crop sprayer and a friend as the shooter. Flying in the temps we have had lately - in an open cockpit aircraft - would not be my idea of fun. Maybe it will happen in warmer weather.

AND - I've always found that my 30-30 is plenty fast enough for varmints around here. It's not so much the gun as the abilities of the person using the gun.

My go to for varmints was 22LR, but my 30-30 was what i took on round-ups when collecting calves or moving cattle up to or out of the high country. It was more of a brush gun, short with open sights. I actually didn't need it often but did use it mostly on dogs running the cattle. Felt bad about that, but cattle are expensive and i didn't shoot unless the rancher gave the go ahead. I rarely missed unless the dog took an unexpected turn or stopped running abruptly.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Well - poo. Over a month and still no airplane - no shooter. I have later found out that this "operation" has little to do with the government. The "operation" has the approval of the government. It's a local crop sprayer and a friend as the shooter. Flying in the temps we have had lately - in an open cockpit aircraft - would not be my idea of fun. Maybe it will happen in warmer weather.

AND - I've always found that my 30-30 is plenty fast enough for varmints around here. It's not so much the gun as the abilities of the person using the gun.

That's cool and all, but a 22-250 or a 204 dumps all of it's energy in the critter. Not spilling energy wastefully on the side of the hill or ground. It's not "fast" so you can hit them. It's fast so you can turn them off like a switch and not overpenetrate and go off somewhere that doesn't need a bullet traveling through it.

 

[Rockbadchild]

That's cool and all, but a 22-250 or a 204 dumps all of it's energy in the critter. Not spilling energy wastefully on the side of the hill or ground. It's not "fast" so you can hit them. It's fast so you can turn them off like a switch and not overpenetrate and go off somewhere that doesn't need a bullet traveling through it.

wow the velocity of these two guns is crazy ... I though 17 hmr had a high velocity.

 

[Jstpssng]

You guys are making me want another gun! Just when I thought I was done buying them.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

I like the velocity of my 22-250. I primarily use it for busting bean bears (prairie dogs), but it works a nice treat on coyotes. With the 50 gr Vmax, I think it's about varmint perfection. Even on the little bean bears, the bullet comes apart on impact. On something like a coyote, the bullet comes apart in the body and does epic levels of tissue damage. Added benefit is I very rarely get an exit and even if I do, the bullet is in particles. I like it more than my 243, until the range gets out there quite a ways. Then the 243 gets the nod, mostly due to our near constant winds out here.

 

[Eagle1]

Around the place I hunt you are lucky to see 100 yds let alone a clear shot that far. Most of my deer are well within 50 many less than 20. 30-30 or 35 rem is all I drag into the woods. If I stay within my xbow ranges those will more than get it done as would the bow.
Drawback is that when I do have something to shoot over 100, I tend to pass out of habit.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Around the place I hunt you are lucky to see 100 yds let alone a clear shot that far. Most of my deer are well within 50 many less than 20. 30-30 or 35 rem is all I drag into the woods. If I stay within my xbow ranges those will more than get it done as would the bow.
Drawback is that when I do have something to shoot over 100, I tend to pass out of habit.

I still have one of each of those. Both are in a Contender handgun. More that enough oomph for deer at reasonable ranges. I like the Sierra gameking in 150 gr for the 30-30 and the 200 gr round nose Hornady in the 35 Rem. Being single shots, I can load pointed bullets in the 30-30 without concerns. Both are 200 yard guns (with scopes) but I too would like to stay inside of 100.

 

[Eagle1]

Similar tack -- 150 for 30-30 and 200 for the 35. Since they are both 336 Marlins I stick with flat or round nose. Thick woods and steep country makes you stay close. I can get a 100+ shot over a holler but then it is 300+ yd walk down and back up and no promise you can get to the kill (or find it in places). Easier let them get close and then drive the ATV to load. I'm too old to drag one up a 100 foot "cliff".

 

[LouNY]

My last few have been on the lawn (30-50 yards) and drive the tractor over to pick them up and hang.
It's not really hunting, it's more like harvesting.

 

[Jstpssng]

If you reload, pointed bullets are OK in tubular magazines. Just put one in the chamber, another in the mag and you will have no worries.

 

[Eagle1]

Truth.... and I just started to load, at least 35 and 30-30 for now.

 

[Rockbadchild]

Since this thread is wondering off mind as well to keep her going ...
One of my friend is working in the Northwest Territories in Northern Canada and he prayed a Inuit to get him a wolf pelts, he just got it back from the taxidermist, cost him $6000 all in... Alaska and the Northern province of Canada have by far the best looking wolfs, they have the thickest fur and the biggest sizes.

 

[dmccarty]

Getting close to two decades ago, I saw the first coyote on our place. It was pretty big and not scrawny at all. The coyote was running down the driveway just after sunrise, like the fox(es) would do, but I scared the coyote and never saw it again. That coyote had to have wolf or big dog DNA given it's large size.

Last summer, in broad daylight, I was looking in the right direction, at the right time, and saw two coyotes cross the road. If I had blinked, I would have missed them. They were on a path, not very obvious but there is a path they were on. The deer use the path too, but I have no idea if they were following the deer, or just using the path. These were what coyote should look like, bigger than a fox but smaller than a wolf.

That is the only time I have seen coyotes on our place. We can hear the coyotes most nights. I heard not one, not two but THREE coyote packs howling the other night. They are here and there are a bunch more than there used to be. Pretty sure our dog had a run in with some coyotes one night. He got away safely but he was scared of something. Scared bad too. He does not wonder of at night.....

 

[GeneV]

I see them daytime around here. Just yesterday I hear my ducks and geese howling around noon. I look out there, and they're all in the pond and there he is running along the shore.

So anyways, is it ca-yot or cayoteh? Around here in northern IL, we pronounce it cayoteh.

 

[Rockbadchild]

I see them daytime around here. Just yesterday I hear my ducks and geese howling around noon. I look out there, and they're all in the pond and there he is running along the shore.

So anyways, is it ca-yot or cayoteh? Around here in northern IL, we pronounce it cayoteh.

i heard both myself i uses cayoteh’s for more then one and for one I say cayot, but thats me I hear both … i think they are both accepted

 

[fuchifarm]

My property here in SC borders a 350 acre hunting property. I am overrun with white tail. At first light I will usually have 30 to 50 in the back 5 acres where there is a small pond. The woods are full of 75lb coyotes. They have no problem taking down adult deer and I suspect would take down a child as well. They aren't afraid of humans especially with their numbers. Ever since I got my electric fence up they stay out of the pasture. I've never lost any cattle or sheep to them but before I had finished clearing all my land here I lost a few barn cats and turkey hens.

Stray pit bulls are the biggest problem here. Lost a ram and ewe to injuries near Christmas when a pair of pit bulls found their way into the pasture. I caught them in the act but I was too late for those 2.

Now out at my property in TN we have small 35lb coyotes. They run through the pasture sometimes. I just have a field fence perimeter and a few strands of hot wire to divide up the pastures. When I was out there in Jan I was walking the fence line and scared one out of hiding. It took off across the pasture trying to cut across to the fence line. The cows were following me and the bull was hanging back a ways. Well all the girls took off chasing after that yote and the bull made a bee line towards it from about 500ft away. Next thing I know that yote was 20ft in the air doing all sorts of acrobatic flips. Somehow it landed on its feet and managed to get under the fence. I'm sure it felt that hit for a few weeks though. If my bull wasn't polled he'd probably of been wearing that yote as a hat.

 

[check]

Since this thread is wondering off mind as well to keep her going ...
One of my friend is working in the Northwest Territories in Northern Canada and he prayed a Inuit to get him a wolf pelts, he just got it back from the taxidermist, cost him $6000 all in... Alaska and the Northern province of Canada have by far the best looking wolfs, they have the thickest fur and the biggest sizes.

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Here is one that a fellow cottager spotted near here. Magnificent animal.

There is supposed to be all kinds of wolves around here, but I never hear them.

 

[Hay Dude]

Woman down the road from me was walking her small dog and it was attacked by a coyote. It grabbed the small dog by the neck, she came running in, kicked the Coyote in the head and it let go. Her dog had 3 compression/bite wounds, but survived.
She said it was the same walk she had been taking for years with her dog and at first thought her dog was attacked by a neighborhood dog, then realized it was a coyote. I have seen 3 now this year. Turkeys have all but disappeared, too.

 

[oosik]

I should be so lucky to have the coyotes and wolves attack and wipe out the turkeys. They do the same things in my yard - on a miniature scale - as your Texas wild hogs. AND - watch your step. The turkey trots are everywhere.