Crated 554 Jinma, FEL and snowblower.

[SPIKER]

like others said probably a ground issue at the key/panel and or the starter sol/main battery ground. watch out jumping tractor from starter sol yes it works and yes you must leave the tractor OUT of gear, unfortunately doing this on regular basis can get you into trouble as many farmers have been run over this way, my neighbor was about 5 yrs back nearly killed him as the duals rode over him he was crushed between them and the tractor was out in the hay field and started running in a large circle he wasn't able to move after getting hit. the tractor ran close to 40 min around & around barely missing him on each pass! My boss found him & stopped the tractor luckily it was only idling in low gear and had nothing attached. I just recently bought a car off of John (guy who was run over) he is doing quite well and is just one tough old bird but now has a pacemaker and can't weld like he used to so I have to stop by a lot & help put for a few min at a time...

mark

 

[doxford jim]

Todays efforts!!!

Well, worked on the starting problem this morning and thought I had the problem fixed. Main battery ground checked and rust and paint found. Ground the mounting spot clean and reassembled with some never seize on the washers. Good connection and was getting 13.2V with the meter. I took apart the starter connections, cleaned, lubed and re-assembled. Still no power indication.

Took ignition switch out and began checking it with the meter and low and behold power back! I could make the power come and go by wriggling the lock mechanism - which to me indicated a faulty switch. Put it back and turned the key and power available. Started it up and ran for a while. Took it out for a run around the workshop and house when it it quit on me! I looked and saw a fair bit of sediment in the fuel bowl so decided that might have been the cause of the stoppage. It wasn't and I got it running again, but had adjusted the fuel pump control cable as it looked as if it had moved. Well, it ran fine but too fast so I stopped it to re-adjust the cable. Wouldn't you know it, when I went to restart, I couldn't get the power back to the dash lights and controls.

I will look at it again tomorrow, but there is definitely a suspect ignition switch plus, I think, a loose connection somewhere in the control circuit. My book doesn't show very much regarding the controls so, do any of you know what is all involved with the Jinma controls. I am certain it is a pretty basic design, but there is the EPA wiring (which may or may not contribute) also. It started raining heavily so I covered it with a tarp and left it outside for the night.

So far the mechanicals appear to be pretty good. The only real problem encountered is this electrical one - which seems pretty common on reading through the old threads. A new ignition switch is definitely on the list for installing - as soon as I can buy one.

Rob - I copied the your post about resizing, thanks.

Larry - I am almost certain part of the problem is the ignition switch, what the rest is I don't know just yet. Thx for your offer re pics. I will try myself first and if no luck, might take you up on the offer.

Thanks to everyone for your comments. Every little helps and sometimes, we just can't see the wood for the trees.

Jim

 

[leslie428]

Be careful with the fuses, some look great but they are really burnt. I replaced all my fuses and still found the 30 amp that looked fine was actually burnt. So this is not chinese phenomena, it is a fuse thing. I will also change my ground to the box when I get back from my trip.

 

[leslie428]

Here is what I did to install and remove my FEL. see pictures

 

[leslie428]

Here is what I did to install and remove my FEL. see pictures

forgot the pictures, here they are. I just drive my tractor in and use the winch to raise and lower the FEL, it takes 20 minutes to install and less to remove.

 

[GuglioLS]

Jim,

Thanks for sending me the pictures of your Mighty Fine Looking Jinma 554. Man that thing is NICE and BIG. After seeing what a great looking tractor that 554 is, I want one! I have a Jinma 354 with lots of mods & upgrades want to trade?

OK here you go - I used MGI photo suite to size your pictures to 800X600 pixels and get the average file size down to ~ 130K vs the 1.2 meg

One thing I noticed you may want to take a look at are the Drag Links for the TPH. I could be wrong, but I think they need to be swapped, (right for left, left for right).

Your shop is huge too - very nice indeed.

Larry

 

[RonMar]

One thing I noticed you may want to take a look at are the Drag Links for the TPH. I could be wrong, but I think they need to be swapped, (right for left, left for right). Larry

I think Larry is right, the left and right 3PH arms need to be swapped...

Nice tractor, Wish I had your shop space

 

[Flyhiflylo]

The beast has risen!

 

[doxford jim]

Hi all,

Don't know if the side arms are the wrong side, but they are back to front. You guys had me get the parts book out to check how they were supposed to be fitted. I knew they weren't looking quite right but wasn't worried just yet. I will find out soon enough when the snow bower gets hooked up (in the next week for sure).

After thinking about the electrical problem, I remember what Magyarbacsi said in his posting about using a remote switch on the starter. I just so happen to have one buried in my tool box (been over 20 years since I have had a gas vehicle) so I dug it out. Went out and tried the key in the ignition first - nothing, zilch, zero.
I hooked up the remote switch (with the key off), pressed it and away she went - started straight away with no problem. Have used the tractor today like that, using the remote to start it up. The draw back is of course, you don't have any lights or instrumentation at all, but the thing runs just fine. So at least now I can use it this way until I get a new ignition switch.

Being able to start the tractor without a key, using essentially a small piece of wire maybe 6" long, doesn't offer much in the way of security/theft protection
does it. Someone could come along any time, short out +ve starter terminal to the solenoid connection and bingo, off yer go.

Anyone have a simple but effective theft deterrent idea? I doubt that you could do this on a Kubota or modern JD, but maybe someone should try it and see. Just thought I would mention it - it is so obvious one would just overlook it, not even consider it.

Yep, the electrics are pretty basic on the new Jinma's - actually the way I like it - along with the rest of the machine. No having to call the dealer because you have an error code or some such thing on the computer or a faulty sensor etc.

Gonna start getting the bits of the loader sorted out the next few days and get it fitted. I am working on my own and have only been doing a few hours a day, so it is taking me a while to get the things together.

Thank for all your interest and especially Larry, who was good enough to resize and post the pictures for me - haven't learnt to do that yet :-(

Cheers

Jim

 

[Flyhiflylo]

Is that Loader a ZL-60?