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We raised a few hogs on the farm when I was a kid. Our hogs had rings in their noses so they didn't cause damage to the ground. However, a neighbor's litter of pigs (about 12) got loose on our farm for a few days. These pigs did not have rings in their noses and tore up an unbelievable amount of sod in our fields in that short time. With so many pigs running wild, I can see why you'd want to get rid of them. Plus it's great practice with the rifle.

Obed
 
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Eddie,
I could see why you would shoot the smaller hogs that are good to eat. What's the motivation for shooting the larger hogs?
Obed

Feral pigs are not only destructive to residential landscaping, they are physically dangerous to humans (especially children) and pets as well as causing many dollars worth of damage to agricultural interests.

I went to a pecan growers seminar and one of the hot topics was feral pig control. They had 4 different styles of live traps on display and plenty of actual user experience with them. How do they recommend removing a hog from the trap? First you shoot the hog and when certain it is dead you drag it out or if you are moving the trap do so and then drag the pig.

They have caught as many as 7 hogs in one trap at the same time (one way entry door.) You put food (bait) in the trap and plenty of water because after you catch the first one the others, true to their name (pigs) want to get in on the feast and crowd in to get whatever the earlier arrivals got. The water keeps the early arrivals from being stressed and not being conducive to attracting their cousins.

Three of the big acreage pecan farmers pooled their $ and hired a helicopter to support the state provided professional hunter. He shot 125+ pigs in one afternoon. (Southern Oklahoma)

Pigs will not only attack you under the right (wrong?) circumstances but they will actually eat you.

If I had hogs and kids on the same property I'd not rely on shooting the ones I see but would be using baited traps to get the ones I might not otherwise see.

Some of the trap designs are really simple and easy to disassemble and reassemble and are easily transported (disassembled) in a pickup. Welded wire panels and T-posts are the major components with a little welding fabrication for the door and door frame. The door is mounted out of plumb so gravity holds it closed and hogs inside the trap can't push it open to get out while hogs outside can easily push it open to get in, only to have gravity close it behind them. Like the Roach Motel, "They check in but they don't check out."

It is a sad statement on our litigious times but used to be the meat from the pigs could be donated as charity to orphanages and such but the processors are not allowed to process the hogs for free now due to liability issues.

Unfortunately there are plenty of unscrupulous pig hunters that continuously release domestic pigs into the wild to go feral so they will have abundant pigs to shoot. If the pigs didn't cause anyone problems or economic loss I'd say no harm no foul, have fun guys but given the economic impacts and danger to humans (especially children) it is clearly a very BAD thing to do.

Pat
 
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Pat,

Very well said. For those who don't have hogs, it's impossible to relate to walking out to your pasture and seeing all the grass gone, and huge holes dug out that can be several feet across and well over a foot deep. I've had them dig up hte base of a tree to the point that the tree died. They compete for food with the deer and will push them out of an area. They don't have any natural preditors, and once they get above 50 pounds, are too strong for lions to kill.

Trapping like you said seems to be the mose effective method that I've heard of. The Department of Fish and Game biologist encourage trapping and killing as many as possible. It really is a big problem around here, both for farmers and home owners.

Most of the time, I just like to watch them, but I really need to kill a lot more of them every year. I used to let them be so others could come shoot them, but now that I'm single and living here alone, I'll just shoot them.

Eddie
 
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Same issues here in Upstate SC. We planted 3 acres of corn in a bottom a couple years ago at a friend's hunting property. Just before it was ready to pick, we went to check on it and about a 1/4 acre had had each stalk knocked down and a bite or two taken from each developing ear of corn. Hog tracks everywhere. We took turns going up there every evening or two to correct the situation, but even though we saw quite a few, they are hard to hit as moving targets in some standing corn. Only killed 3. Result was that in less than 3 weeks, all three acres were destroyed. We got two bushels we picked early before it was destroyed as well.

These things are very destructive in short order.:mad:
 
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Eddie, Most folks just don't get it. For every pig you see there may be a dozen you don't. Even if you killed every pig you saw you just would NOT be eliminating the pigs. Every one you shoot is one that doesn't eat what the others will. Shooting just a few will not significantly reduce the population. The general consensus of opinion I get from the extension agents and similar knowledgeable folks is that casual shooting does not significantly reduce the population, just eliminates the ones who will expose themselves. The state sponsored shooters, even with helicopters, can only temporarily knock down the population in a limited area and soon the population is restored.

Trapping is the best management tool available, It yields the greatest return on investment.

I have an ongoing problem with beaver that is not unlike the pig problem. I can shoot the ones I see but it doesn't really eliminate the problem. Trapping seems to be THE BEST approach if you don't mind a little collateral damage. My traps have killed a turtle and 3 armadillos while trapping 8 beaver. Glad to get the armadillos and although I'd just as soon not have the turtle harmed, I have oodles more so it is an acceptable risk to me.

Oh, about the 30-06... Great caliber. I have a M-1 Garand as well as a 30-06 bolt action. I prefer it over my Weatherby Magnum in 30 cal. I suspect with the right bullet that my 6.5 mm would take out a hog, no problem. Years ago I was tapped to go along as "safety man" on a bow hunting hog hunt (before California got too weird.) My weapon of choice was my M-1 30 cal semi-auto gas operated carbine. A great close in weapon. Not knocking my Mossberg street sweeper in 12 ga mag but I really like what I can do with the carbine and a high capacity magazine. Of course my Super Blackhawk went along for just in case.

Pat
 
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{but now that I'm single and living here alone, I'll just shoot them.}

Eddie - Does this mean what I think it means?

If so sorry to hear that. I can't help but be nosey. :(
 
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{but now that I'm single and living here alone, I'll just shoot them.}

Eddie - Does this mean what I think it means?

If so sorry to hear that. I can't help but be nosey. :(

I saw that also but was to scared to point it out....
 
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Me too, immediately, but lacking in certain
people/social skills/graces I thought it best to let someone else broach the topic and risk taking inbound rounds and then when sufficient intel had accumulated I would be able to safely comment in some way if appropriate.

I get very uncomfortable waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Pat
 
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In January I found out that Steph was having an affair. I asked her and the kids to move out and the divorce was final last month. It was a bad time for me, but now that some time has passed and I haven't had anything else to do with her, I'm out having fun again. I've been meeting new people, going out on dates and seeing new places. Oddly enough, I'm having the time of my life!!!!!

Here is a thread that was going for awhile. There were a few others, but they were deleted. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...64688-anyone-heard-how-eddiewalker-doing.html

Thankyou for your concern,
Eddie
 

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