Creating a Lake

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EddieWalker said:
We've looked at the ones at Atwoods and Tractor Supply and haven't decided on either one. Prices are around $600. Does anybody know of another source or place to look at paddle boats?

I bought mine several years ago at Academy Sports. Lately, I've seen one at Sam's with a covered cooler for around $500 (don't hold me to that $).

Some have removable seats and some padded seats and on-'n-on... It just depends on what you want to pay. I've always wanted to rig a transom on mine so I could drop on a trolling motor for those days when I don't feel like paddling.:cool:
 
   / Creating a Lake #1,102  
Eddie you need an aerial photo of the lake to get a good prospective of just what you have created.
 
   / Creating a Lake #1,104  
EddieWalker said:
Pat,
The paddle boats we looked at have four seats and a canopy. They also have plenty of room for drinks and tackle boxes, which would be nice for us and the kids.

Thanks,
Eddie

Eddie, A canoe will not replace a paddle boat functionally but is a terrific additional boat with abilities unavailable to a paddle boat . Kids like them too, the "Indian" or Lewis and Clark sort of thing. If the wind gets up, either can be a handful but the paddle boat with its "sail area" will become impossible to manage when the canoe is still usable. It won't take that much wind to ruin or prevent a paddleboat voyage.

Pat
 
   / Creating a Lake #1,105  
patrick_g said:
Eddie, A canoe will not replace a paddle boat functionally but is a terrific additional boat with abilities unavailable to a paddle boat


not to mention the effort diffrence... a few strokes on a cannoe on a clam lake will send you skateing acorss the surface in near silence for a few hundred yards.

stop peddleing and splashing about in your paddle boat, and see how far you coast in that barge!

Ive got a 17' AL cannoe that me and my neighbor routinly fish out of. ITs easy for us to keep our own tackle by us and cast in near 360 deg direction and not be in the way of each other. A small trolling motor clamped to the side of a canoe and you can d@mn near ski behind it! :D
 
   / Creating a Lake #1,106  
In 1969, I bought a 17' double ended aluminum Ouachita canoe, having had no previous experience with canoes, and of course, I bought it for fishing. I very quickly learned that one person alone in the back end of the canoe had a serious problem with steering in a crosswind.:D The weight in the back caused the front end of the canoe to rise slightly, catch the wind, and turn. So I put weight (5 gallon bucket and also tried a cinder block) in the front end. That really helped. Then I got smarter. I bought a mushroom type anchor, ran my anchor rope through the "eye" on the bow of the canoe, and back to tie it off on the crossmember right in front of me. I could untie the rope and let the anchor down from the front of the canoe, or pull the anchor back up right against the bow without ever getting out of my seat. Then I made a side mount "transom" and bought a 2 hp Johnson gasoline outboard motor when Johnson first came out with the 2 hp model in 1970. It held one quart of gasoline, and I carried a spare quart in a one quart oil bottle. So if I ran out, I could quickly and simply turn the bottle upside down to refill the gas tank without spilling any. And I could fish ALL DAY, even doing a lot of trolling, and I never used up the second quart of gas in one day.:D Wish I had that rig back.
 
   / Creating a Lake #1,107  
Eddie,
We do sortta get an idea of the lake from the pics, I'm positivie it is much better in person though. When we follow the thread and see many pics you kinda get the whole picture.

Wonder about the water quality. From the pics it looks brown, but probably that is jsut from the color of the clay bottom, right? I think you said, correct me if I am wrong that you are not going to try and fool with anything to change the clor. I am used to seeing blue or even green lakes but never brown. From Wisconsin and right next to Minnesooooota the land of is it 10,000 lakes, I have always been around water, the brown color takes some getting used to but I am getting used to it by seeing it in the pics. I can see how in different parts of the country lakes might be brown.
 
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Rox, Not to start a dorsal fin comparison with a rep from the land of 10,000 lakes but I think we have more than that. Oklahoma has more man-made lakes than any other
state, which give us more than a million surface-acres
of water and 2,000 more miles of shoreline than the
Atlantic and Gulf coasts combined.

An awful lot of our water is RED or at least reddish brown. A town not too far from us is named Pink, Oklahoma and the soil around there is bright pink in color. The Washita river runs reddish brown nearly all the time and when I was a kid I had the red stained underwear to prove I spent time swimming in it.

The color is NOT a dangerous abnormality indicative of poor water quality. It is indicative of the type of fine red clay that when suspended in water takes on an electric charge so that the particles repel each other and do not clump (agglutinate) readily and fall out of suspension.

I have 10 ponds and some stay very clear most of the time while some have been continuously muddy for years and years (probably since they were first filled.) I have old and new ponds that stay muddy and some that are nearly always clear. I can't seem to get a good handle on why adjacent ponds are so different in that respect. The last pond I built is going on 4 years old and my hopes that it would become "seasoned" and clear up are dwindling.

I sure hope Lake Maribou clears up as we all like clear water more than muddy but it is not a disaster if it doesn't, probably just a small disappointment. The turbidity will reduce light penetration and cut down on the productivity of its ecosystem. One of the basic foundations of the food chain is plant life, both microscopic and larger. The little creatures eat the little plant life and in turn the larger creatures eat the littler ones and so on up the chain. The base of the pyramid is life driven by sunlight.

As instrumental in gaging turbidity as the yardstick is for measuring depth is the Secchi disk. The Secchi disk is a negatively buoyant white and black segmented disk that can be lowered by a tether into the water to gauge the turbidity (resistance to light penetration.) It can be lowered and raised to determine the greatest depth under the surface that its alternating white and black surface can be detected by sight. Subsequent measurements will tell you if there is an improving trend or a decrease in the transmission of light. The assumption is made that the penetration of light visible to the observer's eye is similar in nature or relatively proportional to the penetration of the wavelengths promoting the growth of plant life (usually a safe assumption.)

Anyone interested in building a Secchi disk for measuring turbidity can easily do so it is NOT difficult.

Here is but one of many sources of info:

Make a Disk

A Secchi disk is so easy to use that a child can literally do it. In fact it is an easy way to inoculate a youngster in the ecological/scientific pursuits.

A Secchi disk may be easily deployed from a paddle boat or canoe, a sort of oceanographic cruise in miniature. Good luck to any budding limnologists! (Don't get your lanyard hung in the paddle wheel.)

Pat
 
   / Creating a Lake #1,109  
Pat,

If you define a lake to be 250 acres or more, then Minnesota actually has 15,422 -- as of 9 years ago when I moved from there...

Don't think any other state can match that number... it has more shoreline than the state of California...

Northern Minnesota (Boundary Waters Primitive Area and Voyageurs National Park) is one of the prettiest places in the country, with over 750,000 acres of public land -- then Quetico National Park on the Canadian side has another 500,000 acres plus that borders it... it has to be experienced to be believed...
 
   / Creating a Lake #1,110  
KentT said:
Pat,

If you define a lake to be 250 acres or more...

(Sorry Eddie but by that definition Maribou is what, maybe a puddle and my ponds are beneath description.)

it has more shoreline than the state of California... (and so does the US Atlantic coast and gulf coast combined.)

Northern Minnesota (Boundary Waters Primitive Area and Voyageurs National Park) is one of the prettiest places in the country, with over 750,000 acres of public land -- then Quetico National Park on the Canadian side has another 500,000 acres plus that borders it... it has to be experienced to be believed...

Kent, I never fail to get a "rise" out of a loyal Minnesotan when I mention "water facts" of Oklahoma. No slight to the great state of Minnesota, Lake Wobegone, Garrison Keeler, the Sons of Norway, Mosquitus Gigantus, or your scenic grandeurs.

I have been up that way and can sure agree on the scenic beauty part. When stationed at Minot NODAK I was deprived of natural beauty and wandered some to make up the loss, when able. Canada helped but Turtle Mountain Provincial park and the International Peace Park can't hold a candle to the places you mention.

Pat
 

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