Crushed stone with little to know chips and dust, rant

[Paddy]

Around here, southern Indiana, we use what is called 53's for driveways stone with chip and dust. Or # 5's and #7's with about 30% chip and dust. Others call it "crusher run", I recall.

In the hills of Southern Indiana, you must use a crushed stone that can be compacted. Last Monday I had a load dumped on my drive while I was out traveling. When I returned I noticed there was almost not chip/dust. Mostly the larger stone. So now I have 250 feet hill with 4 inch deep of marbles! The trucker did a fine job of spreading an even layer.

I called the trucking company this AM to complain about the quality or the "lack" of chip and dust. They agree, there needs to be plenty of chip and dust to make it work and to meet the 53's description.

The only solution is to add a top layer of chip and dust to lock it all together. At this point I don't think a tri-axle could get up the hill of marbles to spread a load of dust. I'll likely have to have dust dumped at the top of the hill and spread one bucket at a time. Arg.....

 

[ruffdog]

Agree you need a mixture going from dust to stone to "lock it together". I would do the same and get some chip/dust to cover.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I just got this and that's what you need.



A Top Dresser. It has a moving floor and can spread a fine even layer. Tractor PTO driven

Just back from sandblasting and paint, panels missing. Wings are for wood chips.

 

[ovrszd]

I run a Township road grader.

I'd go visit your public road grader man. I'd ask his opinion and invite him to take a look.

If you were in my Township I'd use the grader to cut, shape and rebuild your driveway. This would incorporate the excellent rock that you have with fines currently in your roadbed. This mix would then pack and settle creating a very good driveway.

When a stone of crushed limestone leaves the crusher it begins the inevitable process of turning to dust. We all want to delay that process as much as possible.

Blending your existing stone with existing fines would be my goal.

It would never enter my mind to have the quarry haul me a load of dust.

 

[Industrial Toys]

You can do private jobs? That's interesting? I had often thought of enticing the Grader operator to make a slight detour into my place, but that would never happen.

 

[ovrszd]

You can do private jobs? That's interesting? I had often thought of enticing the Grader operator to make a slight detour into my place, but that would never happen.

We serve the taxpayers. I frequently work on driveways, smooth road banks for new fence installation, clear snow from driveways of elderly folks. Just finished 3 days of dirtwork expanding a local cemetary.

I'd fix his driveway in less than an hour.


No money ever changes hands.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I don't understand how that would work at all. Why would anyone hire a contractor or do it themselves if the taxpayer would look after ones own driveway? I think our guys wouldn't even have the available time.

 

[boomer1025]

Around here, southern Indiana, we use what is called 53's for driveways stone with chip and dust. Or # 5's and #7's with about 30% chip and dust. Others call it "crusher run", I recall.

In the hills of Southern Indiana, you must use a crushed stone that can be compacted. Last Monday I had a load dumped on my drive while I was out traveling. When I returned I noticed there was almost not chip/dust. Mostly the larger stone. So now I have 250 feet hill with 4 inch deep of marbles! The trucker did a fine job of spreading an even layer.

I called the trucking company this AM to complain about the quality or the "lack" of chip and dust. They agree, there needs to be plenty of chip and dust to make it work and to meet the 53's description.

The only solution is to add a top layer of chip and dust to lock it all together. At this point I don't think a tri-axle could get up the hill of marbles to spread a load of dust. I'll likely have to have dust dumped at the top of the hill and spread one bucket at a time. Arg.....

Have the tri-axle driver backup your drive spreading the chips and dust.
That's how they salt and sinder the mountains around here.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I bet it's harder for a triaxle to tailgate a load, than a tandem.

 

[ovrszd]

I don't understand how that would work at all. Why would anyone hire a contractor or do it themselves if the taxpayer would look after ones own driveway? I think our guys wouldn't even have the available time.

In 30 years of running this Township Grader I've never heard of a complaint. I've never felt like anyone was asking me to do something they couldn't do themselves. By your last sentence I'm guessing you don't have an ongoing relationship with your Grader guys?

My Taxpayers send me Christmas cards. Know me by name and my Boys names. Wave at me every time they meet me on the road. They know who owns the Grader and who I work for.

Not sure what it's like where you are? Also not sure what it's like where the OP is? But it sure wouldn't hurt to make a friendly visit to find out.