CT225 that is 25HP

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qed-cat225

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2011 Bobcat CT235
Okay guys now I am ticked, I bought my CT225 knowing it is 27HP now I see almost 2 years into this that my CT225 27HP really is the older 25 HP model. What can I do? My sales brochure that I was given says 27HP but the engine is clearly stamped 18.x KW aka 25HP. I feel like I got the wool pulled over my eyes. Any thoughts??? Action I can take?
 
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Hmm thats a tough one. I am thinking that had you caught it earlier you may have had some leverage with the dealer since your documentation says 27. But, after two years I wonder how receptive the dealer or anyone else is going to be at listening to you....

It does suck though if you were under the impression it was 27. Sorry not much advice here, more just thinking out loud.....
 
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I looked at all the invoices etc and they just say CT225, never says 27HP anywhere, it is still under warranty and I do still have payments on it and WI has a strong lemon law. Guess I have to look at the old emails and see if they said anything about 27HP. I'm getting more ticked by the minute
 
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I kinda think after this long, It's been doing the job. Just let it go. The dealership may not have even known. If they gave you full purchase price credit on a new one(seems fair), what would you do. A new one would still cost several thousand dollars.
 
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I'm kinda remembering that the reason the 25 was bumped upto 27 was to compensate for the stricter (power sucking) emission standards. I'm thinking there's not much actual power differential between the two.

Don
 
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let it go come one, you bought your wife a diamond ring and you go to get it appraised later to find out its cubic zirconia...let it go? yeah right I got sold a bill of goods and not what I thought I was getting, plus I have been one of the ones complaining about the power problem too, might explain why now
 
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TBDonnelly is right, the hp was boosted due to emissions changes. I doubt there is very much difference, if any at all, between the two. I understand you didn't get what you thought you were getting. It's an anoyance, for sure. Notwithstanding the potential RV problem that may exist, life is too short to spend a lot of energy on what is really a specification nuance. You've been using it for a couple of years now. So, it must be mostly effective. Right? If you are not happy with the tractor, sell it or trade it in. If you are, use it and enjoy.

OTH, if there are a bunch of you that got 25 hp thinking you were getting 27 hp, get together, contact a lawyer and file a class action suit. Then the lawyers will get all the money and the rest of us will have to pay higher prices next time to compensate for the manufacturer's losses. And you'll get a check for $27.27 as your compensation.:eek: Just the way it is.

This is not to say that you shouldn't fight them over the RV issue. Since not everyone is experiencing this phenomenon, I think there might be something to that one. And, I'd be very surprised if the RV is supposed to be different across the 225/230/235 tractors.
 
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If I were you, nothing would make things right except getting a new 27 hp tractor. I am pretty sure they are not going to do that after you have used the tractor for this long. You can sell the tractor. You probably got it at the fire sale price. You might just make money, but you won't have a tractor.
 
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Just talked to the dealer, service manager tells me the tractor shipping today is 25HP, CT225 ie frame size 2 25 HP CT 230 30 HP get the gist...I ask if he is sure yup he is positive I ask again if he is sure yup, I tell him to check the engine of the unit on the floor for sale....oops (oh yeah I see they changed it mid stream now s/n XXX and later) I call the sales man, ask how many HP my tractor is 27 HP, are you sure yes 27HP Gross...then I get on the phone, clueless about the 25HP thing. I AM BOILING! Salesman agrees this is an issue and will see what he can do...asks me what I want, I tell him I want what I thought I was getting...not holding my breath
 
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serial number A59B11001 and up a Daedong TD1300LXBC Tier II 79.3 cu in engine which is 25 hp Serial number ABFJ11001 and above have a 3A139LWBC Tier IV 85 cu in engine which is 27 hp
 

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