cut steel and run your car on water

[hazmat]

Here is their website hytechapps.com

I read thru all of it. No where did I see an energy equation - ie it takes X kW of electricity to produce Y kW worth of "AQUYGEN" gas.

Very unprofessional website - word & ppt files vs. pdf.

They had their "AQUYGEN" documented in a scientific paper by an italian physicist.

If these guys were serious, they would have the energy equation & would have it documented by a premier US technical University - MIT, Caltech, Cornell (<font color="red">go red!</font>) etc.

Their "hybrid" car tests were run in 2003 - if this was the real deal, you'd think in the last 3 years they would have licensed this to someone & would be sipping margaritas on their private island... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[hazmat]

Here is their website hytechapps.com

I read thru all of it. No where did I see an energy equation - ie it takes X kW of electricity to produce Y kW worth of "AQUYGEN" gas.

Very unprofessional website - word & ppt files vs. pdf.

They had their "AQUYGEN" documented in a scientific paper by an italian physicist.

If these guys were serious, they would have the energy equation & would have it documented by a premier US technical University - MIT, Caltech, Cornell (<font color="red">go red!</font>) etc.

Their "hybrid" car tests were run in 2003 - if this was the real deal, you'd think in the last 3 years they would have licensed this to someone & would be sipping margaritas on their private island... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[hazmat]

seaching further I found this pdf

5 kw/hour produces 1,500 L of gas

1,500L *1m^3/1,000L * .083kg/m^3 * 33.3kw/kg = 4.14kw energy

So - tc35d is pretty darn close - 10kW of electricty would produce 8.28kW of work /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

That explains why these guys don't own a private island.

 

[hazmat]

seaching further I found this pdf

5 kw/hour produces 1,500 L of gas

1,500L *1m^3/1,000L * .083kg/m^3 * 33.3kw/kg = 4.14kw energy

So - tc35d is pretty darn close - 10kW of electricty would produce 8.28kW of work /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

That explains why these guys don't own a private island.

 

[IslandTractor]

I understand that if you use this stuff as fuel then your tractor will be able to hover and fly. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

There seem to be half baked ideas like this that get bad investors and television stations all excited about once every two to three years. Remember cold fusion? Does anyone think that if this was for real that we'd be hearing about it like this? If there was real science behind it (such as with fuel cells), there would be buzz from the laboratory decades before anything practical emerged. I say these guys are either deluded or charlatons. I'm sticking with diesel. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[IslandTractor]

I understand that if you use this stuff as fuel then your tractor will be able to hover and fly. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

There seem to be half baked ideas like this that get bad investors and television stations all excited about once every two to three years. Remember cold fusion? Does anyone think that if this was for real that we'd be hearing about it like this? If there was real science behind it (such as with fuel cells), there would be buzz from the laboratory decades before anything practical emerged. I say these guys are either deluded or charlatons. I'm sticking with diesel. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[scott_vt]

Hi Mike,
Well it looks too good to be true /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif The news station offers the story some validity, simply by broadcasting the story /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I guess Im with Hazmat on this one, an equation would be nice, of course with my chemistry backround they could almost throw anything at me and I would believe it /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

If there is anything to it, the auto companies will buy it up and thats the end of it /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[scott_vt]

Hi Mike,
Well it looks too good to be true /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif The news station offers the story some validity, simply by broadcasting the story /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I guess Im with Hazmat on this one, an equation would be nice, of course with my chemistry backround they could almost throw anything at me and I would believe it /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

If there is anything to it, the auto companies will buy it up and thats the end of it /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[midlf]

This is basically electrical production of hydrogen which is then, in their case, running an internal combustion engine. Fuel cells appear to have a higher efficiency than internal combustion for hydrogen. Why do I say that? No serious proposal for hydrogen propulsion uses internal combustion so it appears that is not feasible compared to fuel cell use. Think about it, all the work the mfrs of IC engines have done on hydrogen does not use their IC engines. There must be a reason, such as better efficiency with a fuel cell.

This may be a good deal for cutting steel what with no high pressure tanks needed. However I suspect a plasma cutter is a better deal.

 

[midlf]

This is basically electrical production of hydrogen which is then, in their case, running an internal combustion engine. Fuel cells appear to have a higher efficiency than internal combustion for hydrogen. Why do I say that? No serious proposal for hydrogen propulsion uses internal combustion so it appears that is not feasible compared to fuel cell use. Think about it, all the work the mfrs of IC engines have done on hydrogen does not use their IC engines. There must be a reason, such as better efficiency with a fuel cell.

This may be a good deal for cutting steel what with no high pressure tanks needed. However I suspect a plasma cutter is a better deal.