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[turbo36]

Well stated. Couldn't agree more. Plus if we didn't have the time change, how would millions of people know when it's time to change the batteries in their smoke detectors?

Hey! We agree on something!:laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

Well stated. Couldn't agree more. Plus if we didn't have the time change, how would millions of people know when it's time to change the batteries in their smoke detectors?

Christmas! 9V batteries make good presents. :thumbsup:

 

[arrow]

I can't imaging anyone's mental state arriving at a level of "hate" for something this trivial. Actually I can't think of anything I "hate", that being an extreme emotion defiant of logic.

First, triviality is in the mind of the beholder. Experiences create the mindset. Personally, I've had a pretty rotten time dealing with dst. Collectively, many more people do not enjoy or find it advantageous. If you ate a few hot dogs, and then you threw up, depending on your wiring, you may: 1. It didn't bother you and you can't wait for the next one, 2. dislike the site and smell of them enough never to have one for a long time or ever. 3. Hate the smell and site of them and never have one again and cannot be in the same room as them.
Now, if you had a kid who unfortunately choked to death on a hot dog, then how would they appear to you? If you never had any of those experiences, I suppose the hot dog becomes a trivial entity otherwise and can be labeled "trivial" by such a person. No matter how you perceive or fail to understand someone else's mindset, your reasoning does not diminish or necessarily persuade the target to look at things in your way or the way of others who happen to share your mindset. Simply, there is nothing you can say or think, that will necessarily diminish the effects anything has on anyone else. In this case, I wish it could.
DST can be an abomination because of its effects or it can be enjoyed for other reasons. You can give the reasons why you like it, which is fine, but I do not think it proper to trivialize or label anyone else's experiences. If you cannot "imagine" what DST can do to many people, I consider you fortunate.

 

[MikeD74T]

arrow, As an EMT I see a lot of people that have ailments where the severity exists more mentally than physically. The phrase "it's all in your head" is neither new or always untrue. This is not an assessment of your experience. If one's biological clock is so precise that getting up one hour earlier once a year causes anguish then I have sympathy. However, to use your analogy, I wouldn't blame the hot dog for the choking child. Beyond the fact that I along with lots of others don't like hot dogs, the choking simply isn't the hot dogs fault.

I don't trivialize medical conditions nor do I trivialize the physical results of mental ailments. People have phobias that cause them great discomfort & anguish. Phobias by definition are irrational and/or exaggerated reactions. They are real for those that have them but exist only in the mind. I had claustrophobia for over 30 years. I had almost daily exposure to a hallway at work that caused my pulse & respiratory rate to rise until one day I realized why. I rationalized the cause & over a couple months the problem want away. Point being the claustrophobia was 100% in my mind. It still pops up but only in extremely tight quarters & I can get past it in a few seconds.

If one has a hard time with DST then the same person would probably have a hard time with traveling across time zones as well. The DST switch would be the same as crossing one time zone. Many experience jet lag after traveling across time zones which further supports the fact that the physiological affects are real. Jet lag is primarily a reaction to level of light & personal expectations based on perceived time. Acclimation to the new time is usually fairly quick. Some that don't acclimate as quickly may have problem with their body's melatonin levels which is treatable. If one has a serious problem with DST then crossing multiple time zones in one day must be truly devistating but it should be a treatable condition.
If you experience psysical or mental anguish due to DST I urge you to seek medical rather than legislative help.

As you pointed out triviality is in the mind of the beholder. So is the way man measures time. If the earth stopped turning DST & time zones would cease to exist but time would go on. MikeD74T

 

[arrow]

arrow, As an EMT I see a lot of people that have ailments where the severity exists more mentally than physically. The phrase "it's all in your head" is neither new or always untrue. This is not an assessment of your experience. If one's biological clock is so precise that getting up one hour earlier once a year causes anguish then I have sympathy. However, to use your analogy, I wouldn't blame the hot dog for the choking child. Beyond the fact that I along with lots of others don't like hot dogs, the choking simply isn't the hot dogs fault.

I am not saying ban or blaming hot dogs because children choke to death on them (which might be in the future or hot dogs looking different) I used that scenario as an example of perception. I do not suffer time zone changes. My intensity deals with yet another government led mandate that we have no choice over, that appears to really do nothing of what it was intended for. My other parts have to do with my safety being in more jeopardy everyday when logging with the men around me doing dangerous stuff and some not in their entirety as a result of lack of sleep. This is an aspect that can be true for many vocations or people just driving around ready to doze off first thing in the morning. I point out what may be a nicety for some, is miserable for others. This nicety comes at a cost for others. If its existence is indeed based on desire rather than a true purpose, something is askew there for me.
Compounding this, is you are communicating with a person who thinks government should only govern instead of what it has turned out to be.
I suppose Mike in the end, nothing is trivial. May people learn that the easy way.
By the way, the state of my mentals is just fine thank you. ( do not talk to my wife about that)